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hello everyone how are you i'm on the

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road as you people are watching video

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you can see that i'm in a different

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setting

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and uh welcome to the show i'm martin

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willis your host

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and did you know that today is

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tuesday yes i'm saying 2

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because it's

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everyone's playing the lottery

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well if you are doing that good luck

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we have a great guest today and i kind

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of got her all jumbled up because

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i'm kind of jumbled up and

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she i think i told her to be in

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studio in an hour but she's going to be

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jumping in any minute i may bring bill

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in for a minute to help me out until

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then um our blog this week is ufos and

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high strangeness in argentina

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it's uh this is an extra long blog uh

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charles did this week a lot of really

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do you remember i don't know if you

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people follow the blogs and you follow

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the audio blogs on this channel

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um it had to do with this woman that

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ended up like 60 miles away somehow she

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doesn't know what happened people are

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specula speculating that she was

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abducted things like that and but

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there's a lot to that story and charles

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has been kind of investigating that just

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happened a few months ago i believe down

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in argentina so another great blog on

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next week i'm going to be off the grid

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i'm going to be i'm not even going to

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say where i'm going to be but i'm not

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going to be available for the show so we

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have a pre-recorded show that's going to

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go live with kevin randle

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and albert wayne albert as you remember

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had that amazing ufo sighting on the

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i-95 corridor and he's had a lot of

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different things happen really bizarre

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things happen with his family we talk

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about that as well and elaborate a

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little more on that specific case

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i think that is about it i do want to

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thank everyone that supports the show

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everyone that participates

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and watches the show

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live or listens to to it as a podcast i

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will tell you i have i'm way behind on

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email i had a business deadline i had to

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finish but i shouldn't have any excuses

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i'm just really behind an email i always

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caution people if you listen to the show

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and you want to send me an email it's

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better to do it piecemeal like the one

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or two paragraph emails i can read those

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fine but when i get the five pagers it's

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uh i've been getting a lot of email each

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and every day so on this about the show

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about ufo sightings and by the way i do

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a form if you have a ufo sighting on

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doing if you had a ufo sighting i do

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encourage you to fill out that form and

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you have the choice to remain anonymous

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or not you can put your information in

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and to peter davenport's site nycap

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narc i always forget the name of that

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one but anyway uh

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two great places to report ufo sightings

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and if you want it investigated mufon is

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a place the mutual ufo network is a

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place to

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uh report it there

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so for now i'm going to bring my buddy

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my boat no not this time of year yeah i

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that's that's not good boating weather

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but but anyway uh bill hey why don't you

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talk a little bit you're you're really

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involved in the pine bush thing that

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june 3rd and who's going to be there

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i can't discuss it because it's not

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publicized yet on the officially yeah

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but a few big names lee spiegel will be

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yeah mark d'antonio yep

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of mufan who's bob he's the

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to come hang out but i just want to let

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everybody know that's watching and

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listening right now

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martin was there for the costume ball

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and we were all hanging out yeah and

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martin got out there and he was dancing

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i got more comments about that well i

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some young girl said boy you can dance i

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embarrassed but anyway this year

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it's gonna be a little bit different

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we're gonna have it on friday june 3rd

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and we should have six to seven speakers

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present presenters doing there yep

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weighing wings so thank you very much

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for filling in have a great time all

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jane welcome to the show okay

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well i'm finally made it i'm so sorry

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i'm late no no it was totally my fault i

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i know you were on quite a while ago i

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ufos in texas and how does that rate as

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that i used to know more about how texas

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years ago but in this recent year i've

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uh in february which should be coming

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seymour in-depth reports than what i'm

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there's a real craving for you know

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that you're just as likely to see

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something in texas as you are arkansas

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in all my years of reporting of you know

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and that he figured that he could that

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every single person in the world

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could fit in the state of texas

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six people or eight people per acre or

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something ridiculous like that i mean

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with um you know with not a huge

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population but you also have better

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weather than we do up in the northeast

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so you have outdoor activity more of the

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time and that that's one of the reasons

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besides california's 20 million people i

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think one of the reasons that there are

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so many sightings there in particular is

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because of the weather you know there's

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a lot of really nice nice weather

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as far as numbers go i know that every

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year they post you know where something

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rates you know in the

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scope of things as far as the states go

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in the sightings i'm talking about mufon

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is there a good mufon uh group there uh

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spoken with and you know i know ken who

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runs that group there at least or at

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least recently did

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uh and i'm sure they have a really great

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one in austin so i would imagine all the

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i'm i'm guessing though don't quote me

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so yeah mufon's pretty i mean there are

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mufon's where i see most the reports

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here in texas so that's where people

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file uh their testimony when they see

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something that's most likely where

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they're going to go

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uh well

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there's

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of all the different outlets i would say

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overall though most reports are ending

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up outside of mufon

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or nowhere right so but it's just all

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it's a hodgepodge right between twitter

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or new fork or youtube or and then

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people do email me and and message me

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with their reports as well

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so yeah i would say mufon's very strong

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it's

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incredible

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testimonies and photos and videos that

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get submitted there regularly every

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single week and when when i was doing my

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monologue before you were in

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the green room so to speak

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i had mentioned uh the two different

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places to report ufos and i forgot new

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forks yeah another great one yeah yeah

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that's that's the one i was trying to to

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think of there peter davenport's behind

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the wheel on that and what a dedicated

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man he is he's been at that so long

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yeah that's a great great database so

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yeah you can spend you can spend a lot

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of time just

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searching through

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new fork and coming across all kinds of

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um amazing sightings you just never knew

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you never knew occurred

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right out there out there in the ether

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yes now what about um

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i would say

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when i think about texas ufo

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cases in the past you know you think of

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the is it the martha lights

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you think of um

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i'm trying to remember the exact one

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where

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it went at the bush ranch i mean i'm

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talking about historical ones

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yes the 2008 stephenville lights yeah

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that was a huge

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case yes

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with radar evidence

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and it indeed it was headed toward

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crawford ranch was the trajectory it was

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on so who knows

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what it was up to or

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yeah

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so do you have the do you

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also look into the details of historic

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sightings here oh so let's talk a little

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bit about that one because that one to

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me was really exciting i mean there were

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there were fighter jets involved in

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everything

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so here's the problem with the

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stephenville lights in particular

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it is increasingly hard to research that

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case it used to be much easier to go um

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you can go find

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i

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some

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photos but

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that that case

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i feel like i get such major heebie gb

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cover-up of men in black fives with that

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case it is so hard to research people

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still see things

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in that area today that are kind of

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similar and and what's interesting is

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yes there were the v-shaped lights or

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the lights

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forming a v-shaped hard to say if they

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were connected or not but there were

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also sightings of just flashing orbs of

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lights that were really weird that

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people still see today

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and

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i don't really know what to make of it i

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think the

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uh where it was headed toward crawford

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ranch definitely i i feel like there

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must be

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some

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learn more uh

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i

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probably need to do you know a

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fresh foia

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foia request on the stephenville lights

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of of all the really

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crowded you know famous cases here in

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texas that's the one that's been the

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most elusive to me as a researcher in

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trying to to pin it down

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um wow yeah

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yeah so that um

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but

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in the ones that they're people are

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stating they're seeing now do you have

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to know if there's any radar data with

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that as well

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stephenville was really unique here in

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texas i'm trying to think i mean of

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course i

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i guess you know there could be

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classified radar evidence of any number

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of these you know amazing sightings that

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have happened over the years is what i

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would theorize

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i'm having trouble thinking of any other

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texas cases where you could actually go

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go investigate the radar evidence

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but yeah i mean i that's what makes me

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think it it must be somewhere or you

404
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know was somewhere at some point

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the

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historic cases where it it appears that

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maybe even our government our military

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was aware

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of of these sightings so it's entirely

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possible that they were tracking them um

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this started in actually

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the 1950s here in texas there were

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a wave of saucer sightings i've have

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some recent youtube videos and articles

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that

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covered this

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so people think you know 1947 flying

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saucer was really a weather balloon you

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know and that's it and actually there

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were so many saucer sightings in texas

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in the 50s that actually

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in waco texas there used to be an air

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force base

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they actually installed towers

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around there to specifically

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detect flying saucers

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and to capture those capture evidence of

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those you know so i i haven't i don't

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know where those files are i don't know

430
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if they ever you know captured any

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evidence right but we do have a

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newspaper article and an eyewitness that

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also

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uh reported to me who uh worked in the

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military and and knew about those powers

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and the other another case that comes to

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mind where i think the government

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military was aware of the ufo was the

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cash landrum incident in 1980 which was

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texas right and helicopters you know

441
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purportedly swarmed that object so

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could could there be

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some secret you know radar evidence

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secret photos or videos of some of these

445
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craft it's you know i tend to think

446
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maybe

447
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yeah yeah um i i had um

448
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colby

449
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landrum on this show

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before

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and uh and i've had several you know

452
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over the years i've had um a number of

453
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well three or four total of like

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um video

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you know filmmakers trying to get a hold

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of him through me

457
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and i'm still in touch with him and i'm

458
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thinking about asking him back on

459
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because it's just i i personally

460
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think and michael schrad kind of alludes

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to the fact that it might have been an

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experimental

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american you know

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uh

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craft

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that and but it may have been using some

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type of nuclear technology for

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propulsion or something for them to get

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all to get the burns but i think i think

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i want to get him back on again

471
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because it's such an interesting case in

472
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general

473
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oh it's it's hugely fascinating and well

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i mean you could even say that vicki and

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becky landrum the the two adult women

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that encountered the ufo

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that they also even could i don't know

478
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that they subscribed to that theory but

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they did sue the government

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right they claimed the government knew

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about this craft so and they lost that

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lawsuit but i always i've brought this

483
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up a few times i wonder in today's

484
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climate in 2022 with these two ufo

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offices and this new dedication to

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studying anomalous effects on human

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witnesses if that

488
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you know what would happen if something

489
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like that

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occurred today in 2022 be more likely or

491
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less likely to be covered up now that we

492
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have all this

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you know national attention and uh

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dedicated efforts to study it so you

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bring up a very good point um because i

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think now the topic

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you know it's almost like i say this on

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a weekly basis

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or

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about ridicule i do have you know

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someone

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i had scheduled for the show

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um coming up in another month or so that

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wanted to remain anonymous and without

505
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any pictures and i said i'm sorry you

506
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know there's no real need to do that at

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this point you know and this person

508
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is not purporting to have a high level

509
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job or anything you know for the

510
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government or anything like that to be

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worried about so i don't really

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understand

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that the stigma

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is getting less and less as we go along

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and

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along those lines

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do you think that's

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probably the reason there's a lot more

519
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sightings in texas

520
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being reported is because more people

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are curious or looking up or

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or maybe reporting when they normally

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wouldn't report in the past

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so it's questionable if sightings are up

525
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i think you know if you look at like

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let's say the last decade you probably

527
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see you know

528
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you wouldn't see this direct you know

529
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increase in sightings and

530
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there there are ufo flaps there are

531
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waves of sightings i do think the

532
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quantity of reports does correlate

533
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to actual ufo sightings and i don't

534
00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:03,520
think it always correlates oh it's in

535
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the news or people are looking up so i

536
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think that's what probably your your

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graph line would would work on and like

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i said i'd hope to launch something more

539
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by this point because i really i like

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numbers and i like to be really precise

541
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with them and not necessarily assume i i

542
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don't feel like reports are necessarily

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increasing

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right now in texas i would say it

545
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actually appears to me that if they are

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visiting that they were much more

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obvious back in the day

548
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um and it was easier to get a photo of

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them and

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when people did have abduction

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experience there seemed to be more trace

552
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physical evidence or you know other

553
00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:43,840
eye witnesses to back it up like the

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1970s travis walton abduction you know

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for example so i actually feel like

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as time has gone on

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they

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have become more elusive

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and

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i don't know that the photos or videos

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are quite as good actually as they used

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to be

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um but yes people are

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00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:06,640
but people are i mean look

565
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:09,280
people are saying things all the time

566
00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:11,600
you're maybe i may be you know sightings

567
00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:13,840
of chinese lanterns are increasing right

568
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:15,919
now because you know more people

569
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:17,919
are out and about but as far as those

570
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:19,600
quality reports i don't know that i'm

571
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,000
seeing an increase here in texas so much

572
00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:24,080
of just a trend

573
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,120
you know that's been persistent for

574
00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:29,600
quite quite a while um yeah i remember

575
00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:30,880
summers ago

576
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:32,159
uh

577
00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:34,240
really um

578
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:37,120
noticeable triangle waves where there

579
00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:39,440
was definitely you know something going

580
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:41,200
through the state and i don't know that

581
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:42,960
i've had you know there's been a big

582
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:44,960
wave like that recently people are

583
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,679
definitely reporting i would i would say

584
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,600
uh it's more the language that people

585
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:51,440
are using to report and the more their

586
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:52,799
interpretation

587
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:56,080
of it so i didn't get reports of tic tac

588
00:22:59,909 --> 00:22:57,600
ufos

589
00:23:01,990 --> 00:22:59,919
before the new york times story but they

590
00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:02,000
were seen before people you know people

591
00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:04,400
were seeing cylindrical

592
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,880
objects hovering in the sky you know

593
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:08,640
doing weird things

594
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:10,080
before

595
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:12,240
the the navy videos were launched i

596
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:13,520
think it has more to do with like the

597
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:14,799
language and the awareness and

598
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:17,679
interpretation around the experience

599
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,400
um at least here in texas with you know

600
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:22,640
my my limited lens definitely can't

601
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:26,159
speak to all of reality

602
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:28,159
here's a question up here and and by the

603
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:30,159
way i thank you dave for being in the

604
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:32,000
chat room dave helps out dave altman

605
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:34,559
thank you um it's always a good idea to

606
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:37,360
put your questions in caps so i don't

607
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:40,159
miss them but what about um

608
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:41,360
here's a question

609
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:42,799
you know when was the last subduction

610
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:44,559
case that you know about is that

611
00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:46,080
something that is

612
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:48,240
as prevalent in texas as it is other

613
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:49,679
part people reporting that in other

614
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:51,520
parts of the country

615
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,679
so i don't know what it is about the

616
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,679
people who report things to me or the

617
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:57,840
sources that i look for ufo reports but

618
00:24:02,310 --> 00:23:59,120
i

619
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,320
really tend to get the nuts and bolts

620
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,480
types of reports you know where people

621
00:24:07,990 --> 00:24:06,320
are like i'm not crazy you know but i

622
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:08,000
saw something weird in the sky you know

623
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:09,919
i don't even believe in aliens but i saw

624
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:10,640
this

625
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:13,520
uh star-like object so that is really

626
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:14,880
what is

627
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:18,559
what i am mostly focused on that said

628
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:20,240
there are other researchers here in

629
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:22,960
texas and alongside me that seem to only

630
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:25,440
it's like that's the bulk of what

631
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:28,159
they're getting or just experiences and

632
00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:30,080
um abduction accounts and things like

633
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:33,520
that and i do get that it is definitely

634
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:36,720
rare it is not as common as

635
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:37,520
uh

636
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:38,640
just seeing

637
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:42,080
a weird circular light or or lights

638
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:44,000
forming a triangle or something like

639
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:46,159
that it's not as common as actually just

640
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:48,080
looking at a mufon report where somebody

641
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:48,960
was

642
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:50,080
um

643
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:52,000
claiming to have had experiences with

644
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:53,600
the reptilian and this apparently just

645
00:24:58,149 --> 00:24:55,600
happened you know in texas right or it

646
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:58,159
was just reported i haven't have not

647
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:59,360
vetted that

648
00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:01,120
the problem with those accounts and

649
00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:02,880
again this is this is why i say this

650
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:05,840
might be a self self-fulfilling prophecy

651
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:09,279
on my end is when i do see those

652
00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:10,799
abduction

653
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:13,120
reports and accounts um often the

654
00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:14,960
person's not directly coming to me so i

655
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,240
have trouble

656
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:18,080
verifying further so i'll see it you

657
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:20,080
know on outlets like move on and things

658
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:21,440
like that

659
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:22,720
and

660
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:25,360
those testimonies are just they're so

661
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:26,720
extraordinary

662
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:29,360
there's so many claims made in them

663
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:31,679
and you know there's

664
00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:34,400
never any photo or

665
00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:37,919
videos attached there's never

666
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:40,640
any elements within the report that i

667
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:42,880
can or details within the report that i

668
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:45,279
can then verify

669
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,080
or use to verify it uh you know like

670
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:50,880
maybe fellow eyewitnesses that also saw

671
00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:53,039
something in the area at that time you

672
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:54,840
know whatever i can

673
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:57,919
to bring some credibility to the account

674
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:00,880
right so just often it is very much

675
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:03,360
an experience or a testimony in the true

676
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:05,279
sense of the word and that's not to say

677
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:07,440
that they're not telling the truth

678
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:10,400
and um that that's not exactly what

679
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:12,799
happened and that that might be the most

680
00:26:17,669 --> 00:26:14,640
important thing that's going on right

681
00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:17,679
now beyond triangles and orbs but for me

682
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:21,360
as a researcher i do not just post

683
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:24,720
those testimonies i have to

684
00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:26,720
i have to have some you know every once

685
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:29,440
in a while i will share something that i

686
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:30,400
i think

687
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:31,760
is good

688
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,159
good to provoke thoughts you know and i

689
00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:36,320
can do a lot of disclaimers about it

690
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:38,080
because it does have to be represented

691
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:40,559
and represented and it's all we really

692
00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:42,320
care about are

693
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:44,720
the actual aliens right so i'm just

694
00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:47,200
assassinated um so i think it might be

695
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:48,960
somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy

696
00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:50,960
and that i don't necessarily highlight

697
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:53,600
those accounts very often so i don't get

698
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:55,919
those accounts as often

699
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:57,840
and i tend to stick to more the nuts and

700
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:00,880
bolts the saucers the triangles and the

701
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:02,880
orbs and things like that well here's

702
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:05,440
one other question kind of off the ufo

703
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:06,960
itself topic

704
00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:10,159
but i think of texas this person asked i

705
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:11,760
think of texas says

706
00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:12,640
you know

707
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:14,400
there's a lot of longhorn there's a lot

708
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:16,960
of cattle what about um

709
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:19,360
cattle mutilations have you ever heard

710
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:21,520
do you ever hear stories about that

711
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,240
going on there yeah

712
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:26,159
that's another one that people do not

713
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:28,240
get in direct contact with me you know

714
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:29,360
like that

715
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:31,360
you know and a great alien has i've not

716
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,440
you know touched a grey alien i haven't

717
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:35,279
seen a body you know in this whole 10

718
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:37,120
years you know i haven't

719
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:39,520
seen you know compelling you know crop

720
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:42,080
circle or you know cattle mutilation

721
00:27:45,110 --> 00:27:43,760
site in person

722
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:45,120
personally

723
00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:46,240
i

724
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:55,200
cover-up

725
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:57,440
men in black topics out there and i

726
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:58,960
would suspect that those are going to

727
00:28:00,830 --> 00:28:00,000
sheriffs

728
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:00,840
and

729
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:03,520
uh remaining in that

730
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:04,640
bucket

731
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:05,440
uh

732
00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:07,760
most the time because you know i don't i

733
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:09,919
don't really see those reports it could

734
00:28:14,950 --> 00:28:12,080
be that it's not happening as often as

735
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:14,960
it used to i mean i know there was

736
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:16,880
in the 70s there was a huge trend of

737
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:18,640
that and i'll have to say it was

738
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:20,240
um there was a lot of research done that

739
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:22,240
linked that to humans

740
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:23,679
uh doing

741
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:24,640
you know

742
00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:25,520
really

743
00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:28,000
disturbing you know satanic rituals and

744
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:29,679
things like that so we have some

745
00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:31,919
magazine articles here and i have a lot

746
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:32,960
of old

747
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,760
files and old magazines that i go

748
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:37,520
through here at the house

749
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:38,640
uh

750
00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:39,600
so

751
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:42,720
but yeah i don't nobody's writing to me

752
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,720
about um which is probably good i don't

753
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:46,559
know if i could handle that i'm i'm an

754
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,840
animal lover

755
00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:49,679
so maybe that's just

756
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:51,919
maybe that's just destiny and

757
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:53,840
the universe has spared me from that so

758
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:55,440
that i stay in

759
00:29:01,350 --> 00:29:00,399
yeah i'm the same way i feel the same

760
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:01,360
way

761
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:03,760
now what about um and i'll i'll get this

762
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:05,440
person's question up there in just a

763
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:10,159
second but um the lubach lights 1951

764
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:11,600
right is that right

765
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:14,320
yeah i i that that one was absolutely

766
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,840
fascinating to me

767
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:17,279
have you ever looked into that one in

768
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:18,559
particular

769
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,880
yes the lubbock lights uh

770
00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,399
yeah i always play it wrong

771
00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:24,480
it's okay there's some there's so many

772
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:26,320
cities here that i'm i learn about new

773
00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:28,080
cities and reporting about ufos it's

774
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:29,279
always fun

775
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:31,600
you know and i get a report from a

776
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:33,440
city here in texas i haven't you know

777
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:37,039
even heard of um but the lubbock lights

778
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:39,840
are you know again 1950s was just it was

779
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,320
super active in texas it's really hard

780
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:44,480
to deny that something was going on

781
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:46,720
there you go there you go you got it

782
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:48,880
this is also kind of similar not exactly

783
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:50,320
but you could kind of put it in the

784
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:51,919
category of the stephenville lights or

785
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:55,760
phoenix lights or triangle cases uh so a

786
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:57,039
professor

787
00:30:02,230 --> 00:29:59,760
and i believe in some uh

788
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:02,240
yeah some professors saw these lights

789
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:04,399
and but they weren't the only the only

790
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:05,520
witnesses actually don't know that

791
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:06,799
they're the ones that took that

792
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:08,480
particular photo so there were multiple

793
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:10,320
witnesses you know it definitely

794
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:11,679
happened so

795
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:13,760
you know you could theorize what was

796
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:16,159
this something advanced of our own you

797
00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:18,240
know back in the 50s

798
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:20,720
what is uh

799
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:23,200
interesting to think about is it kind of

800
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:26,640
reminds me of things like the starlink

801
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:27,600
train

802
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:30,640
that elon musk you know has up there in

803
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:33,039
the skies these days that get reported

804
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:35,919
as ufos and so

805
00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:37,919
it makes you wonder like could if these

806
00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:39,679
have been advanced

807
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:41,919
satellites you know or human satellites

808
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:43,600
even back then because if the lubbock

809
00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:46,320
lights were to be reported today

810
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:49,120
um people would say oh it's starlink

811
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:51,600
and so i think that also

812
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:54,399
goes to show how hard ufology is today

813
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,320
when you have things like starlink up

814
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,799
there and all these advanced drones and

815
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:00,240
you have all like thousands of

816
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:02,559
satellites and i and so i kind of hate

817
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,960
it when you know if you see a ufo on a

818
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:07,039
night that star links out it's just

819
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:09,039
gonna get called starlink like good luck

820
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:10,080
you're not gonna be able to prove to

821
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:11,840
anybody that it wasn't what you're

822
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:14,240
saying sure right so it goes both ways

823
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:16,320
right so it's like okay well then if all

824
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:18,880
of these anomalous lights are startling

825
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:20,720
well then let's look at all the past and

826
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:22,399
what were they in the past they couldn't

827
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:24,480
have been starlink then and if you know

828
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,840
so it's

829
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:28,240
yeah it's it's really hard it's

830
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:31,120
increasingly hard these days with all uh

831
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:33,440
the stuff that we're putting up there in

832
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:36,320
the sky it's it's really difficult

833
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:37,760
and it's not going to get it's not going

834
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:39,679
to get any better

835
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:41,600
as we go along there's going to be more

836
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:43,200
advanced drones

837
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:44,880
and you know it depends on what the

838
00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:47,440
regulations are going to

839
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:51,039
um you know be enforced on drones the

840
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:53,120
use of them and things like that but as

841
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:55,519
we develop more and more

842
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:56,799
you know it's going to be harder and

843
00:32:01,990 --> 00:31:59,200
harder and i'm still waiting for the

844
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:04,389
and uh when that's out there yeah then

845
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:06,159
then it's a real another game changer

846
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:08,240
yeah then it's over yeah you apologies

847
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:10,399
over when we've got the flying car right

848
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:12,640
we are the aliens then so yeah we're the

849
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:16,159
aliens yeah so i heard you use the term

850
00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:18,880
aliens and do you think uh you know i

851
00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:21,279
always ask people more or less

852
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:22,480
their opinion

853
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:25,279
um do you think the answer to what a lot

854
00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:26,880
of people are seeing and and you

855
00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:28,640
mentioned some of it is probably

856
00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:29,919
military or

857
00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:32,240
our own but do you think it's possible

858
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:33,919
that we're getting

859
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:36,320
um an extraterrestrial structural

860
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,799
visitation

861
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:41,039
you know i'm

862
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:42,399
i haven't

863
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:49,360
been able to find that

864
00:32:53,549 --> 00:32:50,640
physical

865
00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:53,559
undeniable indisputable proof of

866
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:56,320
extraterrestrial visitation

867
00:32:58,630 --> 00:32:57,519
dot dot dot

868
00:33:04,070 --> 00:32:58,640
yet

869
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:04,080
so it's it's and i'm also not an

870
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:06,720
experiencer you know i kind of saw ufo

871
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:09,679
one time you know well into being a ufo

872
00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:10,960
reporter

873
00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:14,720
so i really can't you know 100 percent

874
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:16,880
say that uh what i would say you know if

875
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:19,360
i had to bet on it i would definitely

876
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:22,000
put it more than the 50

877
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:22,960
chance

878
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:28,710
it's weird i feel like i go back and

879
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:31,600
forth sometimes

880
00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:34,000
in in this space you know it's like one

881
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:35,360
day it's like

882
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:38,480
oh you know all of this is just you know

883
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:41,600
it's just a big um deception like

884
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:45,440
self-deception even you know or

885
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:46,720
or yeah

886
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:49,360
all of it is just completely true

887
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:52,080
and why are we doubting the great aliens

888
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:53,679
still at this point so sometimes i'm

889
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:55,600
just like it's is it is it just

890
00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:58,240
self-evident like is it just obvious

891
00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:00,559
that the grays are real and we just need

892
00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:03,519
to accept that and not be so surprised

893
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,679
when somebody shares an encounter with

894
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,799
them

895
00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:08,800
so you know sometimes i'm in that camp

896
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,079
where it doesn't even seem that

897
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:12,320
extraordinary to me and i'm like okay

898
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,320
that makes sense you know that that's i

899
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:16,560
could live in that reality and then then

900
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:18,960
other days it's like well

901
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:21,599
okay you know um

902
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:23,520
well if if you saw a great alien you

903
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:24,879
know how do you know you really saw a

904
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:27,119
great alien was it something pretending

905
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:29,359
to be a great alien you know how can you

906
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:31,679
trust the information they're giving you

907
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:33,200
and they're telling you they're from

908
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:35,359
zeta reticuli you know what if they're

909
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:37,440
lying so it's just

910
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:38,879
then i kind of realized oh we're never

911
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:40,960
gonna we're never gonna figure this out

912
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:43,200
like we're never gonna figure out

913
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:45,599
if there's extraterrestrials or not even

914
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:48,480
if even if we think we figured it out so

915
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:50,960
that's my long long winded rambling

916
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:53,330
unsatisfying answer

917
00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:55,200
[Music]

918
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:56,960
well i agree that

919
00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,720
i sometimes you know i mean i know

920
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:00,720
you're not really asking my opinion but

921
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:03,200
i'll give it to you anyway um

922
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:03,920
i

923
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:08,079
that

924
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:10,480
at least some of what we're seeing is

925
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:12,000
extraterrestrial

926
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:14,400
i also think it's possible

927
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:16,400
um that it could be

928
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,880
a number of different things that we're

929
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:20,320
seeing some

930
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:22,640
um could be of our own

931
00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:25,280
uh our own crafts that were that we're

932
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:26,400
seeing that

933
00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:28,880
um we just don't know about but i do

934
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:31,359
think that it is

935
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:34,240
as crazy as it sounds it's possible it's

936
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,200
an inter-dimensional type of situation

937
00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:39,839
um it's possible it's like i said

938
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:41,119
multiple things including

939
00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:42,640
extraterrestrial

940
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:43,520
um

941
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:46,160
i i i would say that i would think that

942
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,640
is a very likely

943
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:49,680
um

944
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,599
prospect that we are being visited by

945
00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:55,680
extraterrestrial i think it's very

946
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:56,720
possible

947
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:59,440
but i don't know for sure and like you

948
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:01,200
said i'm not really sure

949
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:03,760
if we'll ever know

950
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:04,800
you know

951
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:06,000
i don't know if i'll ever know in my

952
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,960
lifetime

953
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:08,480
and i don't know if it's all that

954
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:11,200
necessary to know either

955
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:13,520
you know i mean you know maybe

956
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:16,000
um you know

957
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:17,920
maybe we wouldn't even understand what's

958
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:20,320
going on if we knew

959
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:23,200
and and i don't i'm i'm wondering i do i

960
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:25,119
actually do think

961
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:27,200
that the government probably knows or

962
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:28,720
some part of the government probably

963
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:31,200
knows more than we do but i still would

964
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:34,079
doubt that they know the full story

965
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:36,000
i highly doubt they full know the full

966
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:36,880
story

967
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:40,560
yet either but i do think there are

968
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,920
people that might think that they know

969
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:43,440
the full story

970
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:47,040
that are in you know high positions and

971
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:49,280
keep that story secret and i think

972
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:51,520
they're fooling themselves

973
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:53,359
because i think that they would learn

974
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:56,400
more if they would

975
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:58,400
disclose all of this and we could all

976
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:01,200
share this information together

977
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:02,880
and yeah it's to your point of many

978
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:04,400
different things going on i mean that

979
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:05,680
100

980
00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:08,480
certainly can say as with the ufo

981
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:10,800
phenomenon i don't mean

982
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:13,280
chinese lanterns or fireworks or drones

983
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:14,720
i don't mean that it can be all these

984
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:18,000
man-made boring explanations but there's

985
00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:19,440
i would say

986
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:21,359
what i've found more

987
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:23,359
where i've been able to turn over more

988
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:25,760
stones and and find and

989
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:27,839
i think make a little more progress as

990
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:30,720
in is when we look into the phenomenon

991
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:32,480
of ball lightning

992
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:33,280
and

993
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:39,359
something

994
00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:41,839
really to that and that that's not neces

995
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:43,599
that may not be an intelligent

996
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,440
extraterrestrial thing but i do think

997
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:47,280
it's something that's been

998
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:50,400
really locked down and not okay to study

999
00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:52,160
from a scientific perspective and i

1000
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:54,079
think there could be a lot of really

1001
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:55,200
powerful

1002
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:57,200
knowledge you know in studying those

1003
00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:59,680
types of lights i i'll probably have a

1004
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:01,280
video soon so i don't want to give too

1005
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:04,160
much away but i've been looking into

1006
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:05,280
chernobyl

1007
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:08,320
and uh the effects of radiation and you

1008
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:10,079
know is it possible

1009
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:12,880
that radioactive sites could create

1010
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:14,960
anomalous lights

1011
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:16,880
and that maybe

1012
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:19,680
maybe government doesn't want us to know

1013
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:21,680
that there's radioactive

1014
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:23,200
uh you know there's

1015
00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:24,800
that that's happening

1016
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:27,119
right so there's all kinds of reasons

1017
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:29,440
right for the cover-up of ufos and it

1018
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:32,400
may not all be just you know grey aliens

1019
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:34,560
and reptilians it's i think if we can be

1020
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:37,760
open-minded and not afraid of

1021
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:40,960
the truth period you know any truth

1022
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:44,000
uh we we will learn we will progress we

1023
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:45,119
will get

1024
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:46,960
we will learn a lot of really exciting

1025
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:48,720
things but

1026
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:50,560
whether or not we prove

1027
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:53,359
um inter-dimensional or

1028
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:56,320
you know physically uh physical aliens

1029
00:39:01,750 --> 00:38:59,280
flying from literally one planet here

1030
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:01,760
write to us uh without having to warp

1031
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:03,520
time or whatever maybe they can for all

1032
00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:04,880
we know i don't i don't know if we'll

1033
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,359
get to the bottom of that but we will

1034
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:09,599
we will make progress we are going to

1035
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,680
find out some cool stuff

1036
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:13,440
for sure i do remember reading something

1037
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:15,280
about and i don't know if there was ever

1038
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:18,000
any truth to it at all about some type

1039
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:18,880
of

1040
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:22,880
inter possible intervention at chernobyl

1041
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:24,960
um when they were doing their

1042
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:26,720
sarcophagus they were putting over the

1043
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:28,240
uh

1044
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:31,440
the you know meltdown reactor

1045
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:34,079
uh you know i mean you heard about those

1046
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:36,079
things but i i don't know if there was

1047
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:38,000
any trouble i actually haven't heard it

1048
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:39,680
so that's really fun so

1049
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:41,280
stay tuned for this video i'm going to

1050
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:44,240
be like super diving into

1051
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:46,880
chernobyl and it's a whole um what got

1052
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:49,200
me interested in it is there was

1053
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,680
somebody who went and filmed the cleanup

1054
00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:53,920
of the site and so there was a new story

1055
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:56,560
out about this recently and the film was

1056
00:40:01,589 --> 00:39:59,599
contaminated right and it created this

1057
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:01,599
kind of anomalous you know look on the

1058
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:04,480
film and so i need to dig in more but it

1059
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:05,599
really just

1060
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:09,280
kind of you know really woke me up to

1061
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,640
because i've always been fascinated with

1062
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:12,240
the idea of free energy and ball

1063
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,720
lightning and you know energy within the

1064
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:16,720
earth itself creating some of these

1065
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:19,680
fantastical lights that we see that seem

1066
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:21,680
intelligent uh marfa lights i think

1067
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:23,440
would be the example here in texas so

1068
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:25,680
you had mentioned that yeah so you know

1069
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:28,800
that's an ongoing real time phenomenon

1070
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:30,960
that has not been debunked and they're

1071
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:32,880
just like these i haven't gotten to see

1072
00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:34,960
them in person it's a it's definitely a

1073
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:35,839
goal

1074
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:38,160
uh but these

1075
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:39,280
just uh

1076
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:41,920
orbs of light that appear and disappear

1077
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:44,400
and seem to dance around people tried to

1078
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:47,280
debunk them as reflections of car

1079
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:49,680
headlights uh driving you know on the

1080
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:51,520
highways there but these were seen you

1081
00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:55,119
know back in the 1800s before cars

1082
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:57,520
so that's not a likely explanation but

1083
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:59,119
maybe there's something

1084
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:00,960
more to this um

1085
00:41:07,109 --> 00:41:04,000
you know think about some of the other

1086
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:07,119
kind of woo-woo part of

1087
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:08,960
this field is you know things like ley

1088
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:10,880
lines and

1089
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:13,200
and all of that and so i think there's i

1090
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:15,760
think there's a lot a lot there to

1091
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:18,960
uncover and that may not be

1092
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:21,599
a humanoid alien in a spaceship

1093
00:41:25,829 --> 00:41:23,760
abducting us it could be something

1094
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,839
entirely different

1095
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:27,760
so what um

1096
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:29,760
i have heard the fact that they're

1097
00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:33,119
saying that the marfa that's m-a-r-f-a

1098
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:34,400
lights were

1099
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:37,359
happening all this time were people how

1100
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:39,200
were they being reported but were they

1101
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:40,880
in the news here's a

1102
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:42,880
some of them right here

1103
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:45,520
and i do understand this is ongoing but

1104
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:46,880
were they reporting them in the

1105
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:50,079
newspaper like in the 1800s is that

1106
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,760
how would you know that you know i'd

1107
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:53,760
have to it's been a while it's been a

1108
00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:56,400
while since i've looked into it so i'd

1109
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:58,960
have to i'd have to look into it that's

1110
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:01,440
a good question the very first

1111
00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:03,599
marvellites report

1112
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:05,599
was i'm not sure yeah i would assume it

1113
00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:08,000
would be the newspapers there's

1114
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,480
the newspapers are littered with ufo

1115
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:12,000
reports in texas it's some of my

1116
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:17,910
places to go look are the old newspaper

1117
00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:21,920
archives for um accounts of ufos and

1118
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:24,400
again those flying saucers you know all

1119
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:26,079
throughout the 50s so

1120
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:28,319
1800s i mean there's

1121
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:29,920
we have a report we have newspaper

1122
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:33,359
reports of the aurora texas right ufo

1123
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:35,359
crash you know so it's very possible

1124
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:36,800
that the marfa lights were also

1125
00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:39,119
documented as well but i'd have to i'd

1126
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:41,280
have to go dig it up and

1127
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:43,200
and unearth it so that might be a cool

1128
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:45,440
article to do soon so good idea so

1129
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:48,240
getting getting to the aurora now

1130
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:49,200
that

1131
00:43:05,030 --> 00:42:51,040
i

1132
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:05,040
was very very flammable

1133
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,760
dirigibles with some type of

1134
00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:09,839
motor prop or something

1135
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:10,720
for

1136
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,680
and that was a possibility of that i

1137
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:15,359
know that's been investigated i know

1138
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:17,680
there's supposed to be a grave that's

1139
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:19,760
unmarked and

1140
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:21,040
that is not

1141
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:23,440
uh there's never going to be permission

1142
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,800
supposedly

1143
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:26,400
to um

1144
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:28,880
extricate the body from that

1145
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:31,680
so um i don't think it's we know for

1146
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:34,560
sure any unless you look into it more

1147
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:36,319
it's really interesting so when i

1148
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,240
initially really learned about aurora

1149
00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:40,319
texas this story the the debunking

1150
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:43,119
effort then if you ask me um there was a

1151
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:44,400
journalist that said that they had just

1152
00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:47,200
all made it up the town wanted attention

1153
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:49,119
um and that was the story so if you went

1154
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:50,640
to wikipedia or you didn't know anything

1155
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:51,920
about ufos that's what you were told

1156
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:54,319
back then um so it's interesting now oh

1157
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:56,319
okay now that's not true okay it did

1158
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:58,880
happen now now there's a new okay but it

1159
00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:01,040
had you know so that i think that i

1160
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:03,119
would have i'd be very curious

1161
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:04,560
martin i haven't heard that latest

1162
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:06,839
theory it is possible right so there

1163
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:09,760
were there were lots of airship

1164
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:11,920
sightings in the late 1800s so this

1165
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:14,240
wasn't just texas this was california

1166
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:15,119
and

1167
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:16,640
more than one of them were associated

1168
00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:20,079
with strange pilots who did not seem

1169
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:22,400
like your typical men

1170
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:23,280
uh

1171
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:25,359
in california there was

1172
00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:28,640
a an airship sighting and the witnesses

1173
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:32,160
reported seeing naked people singing in

1174
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:33,280
it okay

1175
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:36,240
so that's how weird these sightings got

1176
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,240
people were accusing thomas edison of

1177
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:40,400
making them so this is very much like

1178
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:42,880
today people accusing like maybe elon

1179
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,800
musk or jeff bezos maybe of creating

1180
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:47,040
like rogue ufos possibly right we've

1181
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:49,280
kind of heard that out there

1182
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:51,280
uh so that was happening in the late

1183
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,359
1800s right so the people were seeing

1184
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:55,920
these ships this so i that's how i

1185
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:58,000
figure well this case in 1897 was

1186
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:00,240
probably real this craft probably really

1187
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:02,960
did crash you know in texas the timeline

1188
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:04,560
everything added up

1189
00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:06,319
and there was no evidence that anybody

1190
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:07,760
lied this is just literally just

1191
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:10,079
something a journalist just said so it's

1192
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:12,400
annoying when you'll see that a lot with

1193
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:14,880
cases where just somebody says they made

1194
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:16,880
it up and that's easier for people to

1195
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,240
believe so people hook on to that they

1196
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:22,560
they retweet that that seems sensible

1197
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,319
that seems logical it seems like an

1198
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:26,400
easier thing a safer thing to bet on

1199
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,680
right but

1200
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:30,240
so often you can find out evidence

1201
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:34,640
of that right so yeah i'm curious but

1202
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:37,119
there were um obviously you know there

1203
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:41,200
were uh the big hot air balloons and oh

1204
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:43,040
people were experimenting you know in

1205
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:45,040
the late 1800s it's not like things

1206
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,839
weren't flying around so it very well

1207
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:49,359
could have been

1208
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:52,800
a man-made object but then again if

1209
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:54,880
we're gonna say that if we say that this

1210
00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:56,960
event really happened then let's maybe

1211
00:46:01,829 --> 00:45:59,119
take the witnesses for their word and

1212
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,839
that there is a news paper article and

1213
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,079
and reports and um

1214
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:06,880
you know memories i guess today

1215
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:09,280
of uh secondhand you know third hand i

1216
00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:10,960
guess accounts today

1217
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:14,800
of uh people actually uncovering

1218
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:16,880
a strange you know

1219
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:20,240
exotic or alien-like humanoid body that

1220
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:23,280
was deceased and it actually had papers

1221
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:25,839
on it that had strange symbols like

1222
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:28,960
hieroglyphic like symbols on it and they

1223
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:32,880
gave the body a christian burial and uh

1224
00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:34,800
the story goes that

1225
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:36,800
move on or you know somebody i don't

1226
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:39,440
know if not mufon came later but the

1227
00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:41,200
government you know at the time or the

1228
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:43,680
military at the time came in

1229
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:46,720
um and confiscated you know all the

1230
00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:48,240
evidence you know says like you know

1231
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:49,839
nothing happened

1232
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:52,400
and uh later i think there were reports

1233
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:53,680
that you know

1234
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:55,520
mufon also

1235
00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:57,200
came out to the area and did an

1236
00:47:01,670 --> 00:47:00,240
investigation but i don't know what

1237
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:01,680
quite they found i don't know if that

1238
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,800
was ever

1239
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,640
fully disclosed or if they found

1240
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:06,560
anything tangible

1241
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:08,800
um but yeah i think it's just one of

1242
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:11,119
those it's too long ago

1243
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:13,040
you know i wasn't there

1244
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:14,800
um you know people didn't weren't taking

1245
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:16,880
instagram photos back then so it's kind

1246
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:23,270
yeah

1247
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,720
sorry i almost had to hit a kiddo

1248
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:26,720
interruption just now well that's sorry

1249
00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:29,440
but yeah we're good um yeah it's kind of

1250
00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:31,839
it's just it's so lost to history uh so

1251
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:34,319
we really just have the legends uh i

1252
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:36,720
don't think there is a gravestone there

1253
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:39,200
so you can go visit as a tourist and you

1254
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:41,599
can see uh the

1255
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,040
report of this burial but

1256
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:47,200
it's not believed that that's actually

1257
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:51,119
where the body was located so

1258
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:53,680
i know i think it was uh whatever show

1259
00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:56,400
bill burns was in years ago was it ufo

1260
00:48:01,829 --> 00:47:58,559
hunters maybe

1261
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:01,839
they did a show on that in particular

1262
00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:03,920
and i know they were trying to get

1263
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:05,359
some evidence

1264
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:06,960
and i thought they

1265
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:09,440
dug somewhere and

1266
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:12,000
got some aluminum or something

1267
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:14,880
i knew that they dug but i didn't i

1268
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:17,280
didn't know if um

1269
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:20,720
yeah that had they disclosed what they

1270
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:22,640
dug up so

1271
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:24,720
you said some aluminum sorry go ahead

1272
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:27,040
you're saying

1273
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:28,720
i thought that's what i remember um

1274
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:30,720
speaking of that in materials and things

1275
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:32,720
like that i just announcing one more

1276
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:34,640
time that i have gary nolan

1277
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:36,000
from stanford

1278
00:48:40,549 --> 00:48:38,160
coming up on march

1279
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:40,559
15th and he's going to be joined by lou

1280
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:44,400
elizondo and sean cahill both so that

1281
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:45,760
should be uh

1282
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:47,599
that should be one heck of a show so

1283
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:49,520
just reminding everyone

1284
00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:52,160
that's coming up on the 15th of march

1285
00:48:56,950 --> 00:48:54,640
um so here's a question for you someone

1286
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:56,960
wants to know about what is what would

1287
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:58,480
you consider

1288
00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:00,480
uh one or more of your favorite cases

1289
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:02,160
that you've actually investigated

1290
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:04,240
yourself

1291
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:06,000
yeah so if we're looking at modern

1292
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,240
reports i've been lately i've just been

1293
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:10,400
obsessed with the saucers and i've you

1294
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:13,280
know tried to do what i can of witnesses

1295
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:15,440
who've reported to me of the saucers

1296
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:17,440
they've seen in the 50s but you know i

1297
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:18,480
can't

1298
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:20,240
you know i don't have the materials i

1299
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:22,720
can't you know actively really look into

1300
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:23,680
that

1301
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:27,040
so i would say the modern day wave

1302
00:49:31,829 --> 00:49:29,359
i think sometimes i give another again

1303
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:31,839
an unsatisfying or frustrating answer to

1304
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:33,680
this question because i think if you

1305
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:35,359
asked me early on i'd have these like

1306
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:38,319
really specific cases that like blew me

1307
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:39,200
away

1308
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:41,599
but over the years they really all blend

1309
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:44,800
into more of a pattern um and so i would

1310
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,440
say for me it's the patterns so i would

1311
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:49,040
say the biggest thing to me is a

1312
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:50,960
triangle ufos

1313
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:52,160
so

1314
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:53,040
uh

1315
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:56,559
especially now that they've been

1316
00:50:02,150 --> 00:49:59,200
pretty well acknowledged by the

1317
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:02,160
government as being a real

1318
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:03,760
you know phenomena that they have been

1319
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:05,599
secretly looking into

1320
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:09,040
while i was publicly looking into them

1321
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:11,680
for years so that was kind of a nice bow

1322
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:13,200
that was put on

1323
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:16,079
that conundrum that i would say early on

1324
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:18,720
in reporting ufos in texas those were

1325
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,760
the most striking reports to me

1326
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:23,280
sometimes in some cases the most

1327
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:25,440
unsettling to me because it was just so

1328
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,880
obvious that it was happening just the

1329
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:28,559
amount of photos and videos and

1330
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,160
testimony

1331
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,480
and um you know people would draw

1332
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:34,720
pictures you know if they um

1333
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:37,839
couldn't get good photos or videos and

1334
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:39,280
it

1335
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:44,720
videos of anything at night so much of a

1336
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:47,359
plan so much so as a plane or even a

1337
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:48,960
full moon right

1338
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:51,440
so the fact that there was so many

1339
00:50:56,549 --> 00:50:54,240
you know clear photos and videos of

1340
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:56,559
essentially you know three lights in the

1341
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:58,240
sky

1342
00:51:01,829 --> 00:50:59,280
um

1343
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:01,839
hovering silently and

1344
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:04,000
that was the the main theme of those

1345
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:06,079
triangles but you know people would see

1346
00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:07,040
them

1347
00:51:11,589 --> 00:51:08,960
as if they were in like a fire fight

1348
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:11,599
right as you know wobbling or you know

1349
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:13,440
in distress there was a whole summer

1350
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:14,800
where there were a number of triangle

1351
00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:17,440
ufos and it seemed like there was some

1352
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:18,800
um

1353
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:21,119
maybe alarming activity going on like

1354
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:23,440
right above our heads here in texas you

1355
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,280
know for a whole summer so i can't

1356
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:27,280
remember the exact year

1357
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:28,480
um

1358
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:31,920
maybe that was 2014

1359
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:33,839
but there was also um

1360
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:37,040
2014 also there were

1361
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:38,880
a wave of sightings where people were

1362
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:41,200
seeing these you know really ominous

1363
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:43,440
looking like ring of lights just like

1364
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:45,359
hovering in the sky and it was really

1365
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:47,440
tricky because they looked like those

1366
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:48,319
big

1367
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:50,720
street lights that you see here in texas

1368
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:51,599
so

1369
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,559
know a circular ring of lights but

1370
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:58,319
um

1371
00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:00,160
those are always here in texas but there

1372
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:02,880
was one period where i was getting

1373
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:05,359
reports of those and people were seeing

1374
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:06,960
them you know where these lights did not

1375
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:09,359
exist right and they were just

1376
00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:11,440
but it was easy to debunk them

1377
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:14,079
as street lights but they were not

1378
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:15,839
they were not and there was a whole you

1379
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:17,920
know summer of that and what was that

1380
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,760
you know there was never and i'm afraid

1381
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:22,079
to say i was never able to

1382
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:24,480
solve those cases all i could really do

1383
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:27,040
is document the photos and videos and

1384
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:29,359
the testimonies and you know just try to

1385
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,440
keep on top of it and

1386
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,440
um you know it's helpful to live here in

1387
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:35,040
texas but

1388
00:52:40,309 --> 00:52:37,760
i can't get to every city

1389
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:40,319
you know i'm not i'm not um sampling

1390
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:43,200
soil or

1391
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,680
you know going to the scene of every ufo

1392
00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:47,599
site and taking pictures i mean i just

1393
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:49,920
can't i literally can't people can give

1394
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:52,800
you know support with super chat and all

1395
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:54,640
that and that allows me to do more more

1396
00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:57,440
things like that but for me um

1397
00:53:02,069 --> 00:52:59,680
i would say my strength is the crap is

1398
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:02,079
is all of you or all the witnesses so

1399
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:04,640
it's crowdsourcing all the evidence you

1400
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:06,640
know somebody saw a triangle

1401
00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:08,880
on youtube um

1402
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:11,040
or they uploaded footage to youtube and

1403
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:12,480
it matches a report of somebody you

1404
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:15,680
reported to mufon um matches something

1405
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:18,240
somebody reported to me so it's a matter

1406
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:20,000
of aggregating you know all those

1407
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:21,839
patterns and

1408
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:24,240
that's how i felt i've been best able to

1409
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:28,480
contribute to this field because um

1410
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:30,000
there's already amazing mufon

1411
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:32,240
investigators and folks who will drop

1412
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:35,440
everything and you know study one case

1413
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:38,079
right but if i did that i would study

1414
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:40,160
one case for two months long and i might

1415
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:41,520
solve it and that's all i'd have to

1416
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:44,400
offer the community you know this way i

1417
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:46,640
can doc you know say hey there was you

1418
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:48,640
know x amount of triangles

1419
00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:51,520
um in this part of the the states

1420
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:54,079
um this month and then now we're seeing

1421
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:56,720
a lot of tic tac ufo reports you know so

1422
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:59,200
what's going on here so the triangles

1423
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,960
have always haunted me

1424
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:02,640
and uh

1425
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:05,920
before 2017 they weren't real right ufos

1426
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:08,000
weren't real you were crazy if you

1427
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:09,440
talked about them

1428
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:11,200
you know the government was not looking

1429
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:14,960
into them and so when 2017 rolled around

1430
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:16,400
and we started getting you know those

1431
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:19,200
official disclosures and acknowledgement

1432
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:21,599
of the triangle ufo phenomenon as well

1433
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:23,599
as the orb phenomenon and other

1434
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:25,119
you know one i'd been

1435
00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:27,359
documenting quite prevalently here that

1436
00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:31,119
was that was a nice affirmation okay

1437
00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:33,920
um this has been worthwhile

1438
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,800
um

1439
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:36,640
i you know my judgment is somewhat

1440
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:38,720
correct here that something's going on

1441
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:40,960
here so that may not be the ques answer

1442
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:42,640
people are looking for i think people

1443
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:44,720
like you know want to hear about

1444
00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:46,480
the praying mantis

1445
00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:48,480
you know that encounter you know that

1446
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:51,839
abducted somebody and you know i have i

1447
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:53,599
have reported on that

1448
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:56,400
but as far as just what i really know to

1449
00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:58,799
be true and happening those triangles

1450
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:00,000
are real

1451
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:04,559
don't put them in the same category as

1452
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:06,400
the triangles at all they get mixed up

1453
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:08,559
again in the earthquake lights and the

1454
00:55:12,390 --> 00:55:10,480
marfa lights and

1455
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:12,400
and that much uh

1456
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:15,040
even to some degree more mysterious

1457
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:16,240
phenomenon

1458
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:19,119
yeah some people have claimed

1459
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,400
that they've seen

1460
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:21,839
you know getting back to what you just

1461
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:25,440
said about orbs that people have seem

1462
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:28,720
to claim that they're intelligently

1463
00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:30,079
controlled

1464
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:32,799
you know do you ever hear that um you

1465
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:34,079
know i mean that's that's something you

1466
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:35,839
do here occasionally

1467
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,480
well that's that's the question the

1468
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:39,920
curiosity

1469
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:40,799
that

1470
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:43,200
drives i guess me even discovering them

1471
00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:44,799
in the first place

1472
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:46,720
right is that are you know are we alone

1473
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:50,319
and then and uh when i first got into

1474
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:51,920
this field or when i first started

1475
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:53,839
writing about it i guess i should say i

1476
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:56,240
started learning about it in 2007

1477
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:58,640
so i didn't grow up uh wasn't born a

1478
00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:01,520
believer you know anything like that

1479
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:04,079
but uh some of the most compelling

1480
00:56:09,109 --> 00:56:07,119
videos to me early on were the

1481
00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:09,119
orbs that appeared you know before and

1482
00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:13,280
after the japan tsunami in 2011.

1483
00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:15,280
yeah and i don't know if those are as

1484
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:17,599
easy to find that these days as that

1485
00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:19,440
footage but that definitely occurred

1486
00:56:23,109 --> 00:56:21,280
there were live news reports that

1487
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:23,119
featured these orbs i covered them at

1488
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:24,400
the time

1489
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:26,559
there were some attempts to debunk them

1490
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:27,520
as

1491
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:28,480
um

1492
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:29,920
like camera effects and stuff like that

1493
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:31,440
but i've never seen anything like that

1494
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:34,079
since or before like i and now knowing

1495
00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:35,520
what i know it's like i think i think

1496
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:38,720
those are just orbs and those were wild

1497
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:40,400
um they absolutely appeared to be moving

1498
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:43,119
intelligently um and almost like dancing

1499
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:45,359
around and things like that and so

1500
00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:47,440
yes i think it's possible

1501
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:49,520
i think if there are intelligent orbs i

1502
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:50,640
do think that

1503
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:52,480
must be a different species must be a

1504
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:53,440
different

1505
00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:54,400
thing

1506
00:56:58,549 --> 00:56:55,599
um

1507
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:58,559
than some of these nuts and bolts saucer

1508
00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:01,040
triangle craft it seems to me you know

1509
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:02,240
when we're talking more

1510
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:04,720
inter-dimensional right like the

1511
00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:06,559
appearing and disappearing

1512
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:08,960
right could that be going in and out of

1513
00:57:13,109 --> 00:57:11,040
a portal

1514
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:13,119
when these orbs are just hovering or

1515
00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:15,040
wobbling or dancing is is there

1516
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:17,920
something else going on there they

1517
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:19,359
um

1518
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:24,079
i'll have an article up on the website

1519
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:24,960
soon

1520
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:27,280
somebody was filming an orb

1521
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:29,440
i guess in their neighborhood

1522
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:32,319
uh for over an hour just hovering there

1523
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:34,640
and it's just sitting there looks like a

1524
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:35,680
star

1525
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,880
but then it gets really it

1526
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:40,880
glows gets really big and then gets

1527
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:43,599
small again and then it starts flying

1528
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:46,400
away so it's not a star

1529
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:47,520
so

1530
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:49,520
wha what on earth

1531
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:51,359
what earth is going on here that's not a

1532
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:53,440
satellite that's not a plane

1533
00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:54,480
um

1534
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:56,079
it does seem like they're it's almost

1535
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:57,680
watching us it does seem like there's

1536
00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:59,280
some intelligence

1537
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:01,520
at the same time

1538
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:03,760
don't want to get too carried away

1539
00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:10,069
we just like we humanize like animals

1540
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:12,240
right i think we can kind of humanize

1541
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:14,160
lights right we can

1542
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:16,720
see more and then that there are you

1543
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:19,839
know and uh nature can create you know

1544
00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:23,680
quite quite the light show for us and so

1545
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:25,839
we just we just have to be careful in it

1546
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:28,000
and i'm not certain that you know all

1547
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:29,440
the ball lightning accounts are

1548
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:32,160
intelligent or um some again the most

1549
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:34,000
fascinating videos for me you can go do

1550
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:37,200
this you can go watch live earth uh well

1551
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:40,480
not live earthquake cams thank god

1552
00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:42,000
there's not a bunch of live earthquake

1553
00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:45,200
cams right now um live volcano camps

1554
00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:46,480
yeah um

1555
00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:48,559
and you can see these orbs

1556
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:49,920
um

1557
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:52,240
like hovering above the volcano going in

1558
00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:55,920
them going into them coming out of them

1559
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:57,760
i'm not certain that's intelligent but

1560
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:59,680
it sure looks like it is

1561
00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:00,960
um

1562
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:02,240
so

1563
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,799
what is that i i think there's a lot to

1564
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:06,960
uncover here i sometimes feel like this

1565
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:08,160
is the

1566
00:59:14,950 --> 00:59:13,119
find more answers uh than with the

1567
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:14,960
saucers and triangles even though those

1568
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:16,640
are the most um

1569
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:18,880
talked about i guess yeah

1570
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:21,280
yes i say often on the show we probably

1571
00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:23,440
know very little about what's going on

1572
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:24,559
around us

1573
00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:26,960
all the time i mean we only see so much

1574
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:28,240
in our spectrum

1575
00:59:32,309 --> 00:59:30,720
you know a very small percentage and

1576
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:32,319
then we have other ways of detecting

1577
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:33,839
other things but still

1578
00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:35,280
there's a lot we

1579
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:36,960
that could be going on all around us

1580
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:39,280
that we have absolutely no clue

1581
00:59:43,829 --> 00:59:41,440
here's a question up here

1582
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:43,839
i i never heard of this the meadow it's

1583
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:45,760
a paranormal spot in the eastern border

1584
00:59:48,390 --> 00:59:47,599
of louisiana do you know anything about

1585
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:48,400
that

1586
00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:51,040
well louisiana is not i mean it's

1587
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:52,880
right next door

1588
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:55,200
um and so

1589
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:58,480
but i have not heard about it i am super

1590
01:00:01,910 --> 01:00:00,720
i mean i'm googling it right

1591
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:01,920
right now

1592
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:04,640
i love it um i love it when people have

1593
01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:05,760
a new

1594
01:00:08,789 --> 01:00:07,040
paranormal

1595
01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:08,799
story or encounter you know that i've

1596
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:10,079
never heard of

1597
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:13,440
so no i have not i'm fascinated though

1598
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:14,880
so i'll be looking into that i don't

1599
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:16,720
know if anybody else in the chat can

1600
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:19,200
illuminate on that so

1601
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:20,079
um

1602
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:22,400
yep so there's a lot of bordering states

1603
01:00:24,789 --> 01:00:24,000
with a lot of interesting things going

1604
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:24,799
on

1605
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:29,680
to keep up with so

1606
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:32,000
yeah um just a question here someone

1607
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:33,920
wants to know can we phone in questions

1608
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:36,160
no but in just about a half hour so we

1609
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:38,640
will be taking calls and bill will be

1610
01:00:43,750 --> 01:00:39,760
standing by

1611
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:43,760
um for that um to answer those calls i

1612
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:45,839
do have you know if you want to

1613
01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:48,000
i i just say if you have a question just

1614
01:00:52,309 --> 01:00:50,319
do what you're doing uh stephen put put

1615
01:00:54,789 --> 01:00:52,319
the question in caps and i'll try to get

1616
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:54,799
it up for our guest otherwise you can

1617
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:56,400
wait until our

1618
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:58,240
phone lines open in about

1619
01:01:01,829 --> 01:01:00,880
right about a half hour from now

1620
01:01:05,030 --> 01:01:01,839
so

1621
01:01:06,549 --> 01:01:05,040
as far as all the historic cases you

1622
01:01:07,829 --> 01:01:06,559
know we we talked

1623
01:01:09,910 --> 01:01:07,839
um

1624
01:01:12,390 --> 01:01:09,920
about the uh i'm going to say it wrong

1625
01:01:13,829 --> 01:01:12,400
the lubbock lights

1626
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:13,839
and

1627
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:17,040
i know we talked about that there were

1628
01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:19,119
college professors that

1629
01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:21,520
saw this on this particular

1630
01:01:25,910 --> 01:01:23,920
picture here do you know who took that i

1631
01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:25,920
mean this i i just want to revisit this

1632
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:30,069
i let's see i'm pulling it up now

1633
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:31,760
because i don't want to i

1634
01:01:41,829 --> 01:01:37,990
this might shoot this might have been a

1635
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:41,839
boy that took this particular picture

1636
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:43,440
um but i

1637
01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:44,480
hmm

1638
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:47,839
let's see well you think about 1951

1639
01:01:51,430 --> 01:01:49,440
i don't think we had could have had

1640
01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:51,440
anything up in the sky that would

1641
01:01:56,789 --> 01:01:54,000
do this type of thing um you think about

1642
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:56,799
our technology back then

1643
01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:59,520
and i would be totally shocked if we had

1644
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:01,280
something that would make this light

1645
01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:02,880
formation

1646
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:04,400
back then and

1647
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:06,640
was that so just getting back to that a

1648
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:09,440
few days later carl hart jr not a boy

1649
01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:10,559
but

1650
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:13,200
a college student a junior yeah yeah i

1651
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:15,359
guess i'm getting older a freshman texas

1652
01:02:18,470 --> 01:02:16,720
tech said he was standing in his parents

1653
01:02:20,630 --> 01:02:18,480
backyard when two v-shaped formation of

1654
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:20,640
lights flew over him he grabbed his

1655
01:02:23,829 --> 01:02:22,160
camera and set the exposure where i

1656
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:23,839
wanted it and went back outside and

1657
01:02:27,430 --> 01:02:25,440
waited and then two more lights came

1658
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:27,440
over said heart junior i think i got two

1659
01:02:30,630 --> 01:02:28,720
pictures of one and three of the other

1660
01:02:32,789 --> 01:02:30,640
so yeah so the professors i guess are

1661
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:32,799
what gave the credibility

1662
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:35,520
right deciding because they they saw it

1663
01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:37,359
and there were other witnesses too it

1664
01:02:41,349 --> 01:02:39,200
wasn't just these professors or this

1665
01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:41,359
student but i think that's what made it

1666
01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:43,440
extra believable and then you had this

1667
01:02:49,589 --> 01:02:46,000
picture as well you know to back up what

1668
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:49,599
everybody saw so yes i mean that should

1669
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:51,920
not have been flying around in our skies

1670
01:02:58,230 --> 01:02:56,240
back then nope right right in 1951 you

1671
01:03:00,230 --> 01:02:58,240
think about that you know that that

1672
01:03:02,549 --> 01:03:00,240
really is something and

1673
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:02,559
was it so it was seen more than one day

1674
01:03:06,710 --> 01:03:04,880
obviously as you just mentioned

1675
01:03:09,109 --> 01:03:06,720
but was it seen

1676
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:09,119
a long time after that i mean were there

1677
01:03:13,910 --> 01:03:10,720
more sightings of that particular

1678
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:13,920
formation do you know

1679
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:15,520
i mean i would say

1680
01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:18,160
people see things like that have seen

1681
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:19,839
continued to see things like that ever

1682
01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:22,079
since so you know it's just like with

1683
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:24,480
the stephenville lights people still see

1684
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:27,200
weird lights in stephenville um

1685
01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:28,799
you know it's really just like within

1686
01:03:32,470 --> 01:03:31,039
the last five years so i'd say yeah i

1687
01:03:35,589 --> 01:03:32,480
mean that type of sighting hasn't

1688
01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:35,599
stopped i think though that was

1689
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:38,319
you know just like a um

1690
01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:40,240
you know high buy

1691
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:41,760
you know kind of thing

1692
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:43,119
for sure

1693
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:44,799
i mean that's definitely

1694
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:47,920
um a pattern too um you know this was

1695
01:03:53,510 --> 01:03:51,599
maybe a particular ufo that that flew by

1696
01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:53,520
and then you know went on its way and

1697
01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:55,520
maybe others like it have you know shown

1698
01:04:00,870 --> 01:03:58,720
up since um yeah we argue yep

1699
01:04:02,789 --> 01:04:00,880
that's always made me curious you know

1700
01:04:07,510 --> 01:04:02,799
why

1701
01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:07,520
the same ufo is seen in the same

1702
01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:08,720
location

1703
01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:11,200
if you think about it if something can

1704
01:04:15,349 --> 01:04:13,520
is traveling great distances to be here

1705
01:04:18,309 --> 01:04:15,359
why would it focus on

1706
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:18,319
one particular area and be seen over and

1707
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:19,440
over again

1708
01:04:23,270 --> 01:04:21,119
you know it's kind of bizarre when you

1709
01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:23,280
think about it but you know maybe

1710
01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:26,880
there's also an answer to that somehow

1711
01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:29,440
yeah i mean i guess for me it it seems

1712
01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:32,400
logical right it's just like if we were

1713
01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:34,240
to i mean look at our

1714
01:04:39,190 --> 01:04:36,799
mars rovers and you know the things we

1715
01:04:41,589 --> 01:04:39,200
send out there you know we have limited

1716
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:41,599
we're limited and where we can go and

1717
01:04:47,029 --> 01:04:44,559
what we can do and i would suspect

1718
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:47,039
they are limited too

1719
01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:49,599
and you know who knows how many of them

1720
01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:51,920
are out there how many different crafts

1721
01:04:55,750 --> 01:04:53,520
like we're talking about there's a lot

1722
01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:55,760
of different things going on here it's

1723
01:04:59,670 --> 01:04:57,359
not just one

1724
01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:59,680
phenomenon so i think trying to

1725
01:05:02,069 --> 01:05:01,280
understand

1726
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:02,079
the

1727
01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:06,240
yeah i mean you really do have to piece

1728
01:05:10,789 --> 01:05:07,440
it out

1729
01:05:12,069 --> 01:05:10,799
um and start categorizing it by ufo type

1730
01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:12,079
and

1731
01:05:16,069 --> 01:05:14,640
um you know what else was you know what

1732
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:16,079
else was encountered along with the

1733
01:05:19,910 --> 01:05:18,079
sightings and other things like that to

1734
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:19,920
really try to

1735
01:05:23,029 --> 01:05:21,920
to figure out what the agenda is here i

1736
01:05:25,109 --> 01:05:23,039
guess

1737
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:25,119
and what they are up to and people do

1738
01:05:28,710 --> 01:05:26,640
talk about how

1739
01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:28,720
ufos apparently show up near nuclear

1740
01:05:33,029 --> 01:05:30,720
sites a lot in um

1741
01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:33,039
air force bases a lot and

1742
01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:34,640
i've had trouble

1743
01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:36,400
corroborating that

1744
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:38,960
because the problem is um what i see is

1745
01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:41,280
that ufos are reported in in

1746
01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:43,039
populated cities

1747
01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:45,680
and guess what there's air force bases

1748
01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:48,720
near all of them so

1749
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:50,559
you know that's just that's just the

1750
01:05:55,109 --> 01:05:52,559
nature of it so you know how much of

1751
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:55,119
that you know is driving

1752
01:05:58,710 --> 01:05:55,920
uh

1753
01:06:01,029 --> 01:05:58,720
the ufo flaps if you will you know they

1754
01:06:02,069 --> 01:06:01,039
could be happening more rural places

1755
01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:02,079
right and

1756
01:06:05,270 --> 01:06:03,920
people just you know aren't reporting on

1757
01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:05,280
it

1758
01:06:09,589 --> 01:06:06,960
yeah well there there could be

1759
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:09,599
absolutely something to the fact of

1760
01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:11,520
testing equipment

1761
01:06:17,349 --> 01:06:14,480
that is you know secret in nature

1762
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:17,359
and them not really caring if people

1763
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:19,200
report it as a ufo

1764
01:06:22,789 --> 01:06:21,599
you know maybe that's even a good thing

1765
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:22,799
for them

1766
01:06:26,470 --> 01:06:24,720
um when they're testing something you

1767
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:26,480
know because a lot of times you know

1768
01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:28,480
i've i've kind of argued the point with

1769
01:06:32,789 --> 01:06:31,520
someone saying that you know all the

1770
01:06:34,950 --> 01:06:32,799
because i kind of put it all in one

1771
01:06:37,349 --> 01:06:34,960
category all of the triangle ufos and

1772
01:06:38,470 --> 01:06:37,359
military that's what some people have

1773
01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:38,480
said

1774
01:06:41,829 --> 01:06:40,559
and just secret military that we don't

1775
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:41,839
know about

1776
01:06:46,230 --> 01:06:44,240
and so the couple of arguments with that

1777
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:46,240
were has always been well why would it

1778
01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:49,039
be in a populated area why would it be

1779
01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:50,880
in an airspace

1780
01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:53,760
um where there's issues or why

1781
01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:55,280
um

1782
01:06:58,230 --> 01:06:56,880
you know would this be

1783
01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:58,240
happening

1784
01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:00,240
with all these witnesses calling it a

1785
01:07:03,589 --> 01:07:02,160
ufo and you know maybe there is

1786
01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:03,599
something to the fact that they are

1787
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:05,760
testing and they don't care

1788
01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:08,079
whether it's seen or not but when you go

1789
01:07:12,549 --> 01:07:10,160
back to that the same person that says

1790
01:07:16,390 --> 01:07:12,559
all these are ufos

1791
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:16,400
then explain them back in 1970 or 1960

1792
01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:18,480
exactly a triangle try to explain that

1793
01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:19,280
one

1794
01:07:22,870 --> 01:07:21,039
as our own

1795
01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:22,880
property that's not gonna that's not

1796
01:07:26,470 --> 01:07:24,319
gonna oh

1797
01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:26,480
phoenix lights right like

1798
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:27,599
why

1799
01:07:32,870 --> 01:07:29,520
maybe it was our own but you know that's

1800
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:35,349
you know as it not being um

1801
01:07:38,309 --> 01:07:37,200
yeah

1802
01:07:39,910 --> 01:07:38,319
and

1803
01:07:42,549 --> 01:07:39,920
is it reverse energy i mean it's like

1804
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:42,559
which came first you know the ufo or you

1805
01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:44,720
know the reverse engineered version of

1806
01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:46,640
it too because there definitely could be

1807
01:07:49,750 --> 01:07:48,559
our own craft up there that we're

1808
01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:49,760
mimicking

1809
01:07:55,829 --> 01:07:52,640
some fancier weirder things you know

1810
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:55,839
that we've found or seen so it's it's a

1811
01:08:01,510 --> 01:08:00,000
difficult again especially now in 2022

1812
01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,520
which you know one could argue maybe

1813
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:03,200
that's why now

1814
01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:05,440
we have the ufo offices and things like

1815
01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:07,520
that is we do have so much of our own

1816
01:08:12,390 --> 01:08:09,760
advanced stuff up there that we can

1817
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:12,400
explain things with and

1818
01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:13,440
uh

1819
01:08:18,149 --> 01:08:15,599
and so in many ways i feel it is

1820
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:18,159
actually easier to debunk ufos today

1821
01:08:23,110 --> 01:08:20,960
than it would have been yeah in 1951

1822
01:08:24,789 --> 01:08:23,120
uh oh yeah yeah that's why i tend to be

1823
01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:24,799
pretty obsessed with those old sightings

1824
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:27,279
as annoying as it is uh to some folks i

1825
01:08:32,149 --> 01:08:29,520
just want to move on from roswell but i

1826
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:32,159
feel like a lot of the clues are still

1827
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:34,000
are still uh um

1828
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:36,480
in the past

1829
01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:38,719
right right well for one thing we have

1830
01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:40,480
so much information

1831
01:08:43,269 --> 01:08:42,080
available to us

1832
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:43,279
um you know

1833
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:44,799
satellite positioning you know

1834
01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:48,000
satellites insert at certain times uh we

1835
01:08:53,189 --> 01:08:50,400
have all that information now we have

1836
01:08:55,829 --> 01:08:53,199
uh weather uh anomalies that you know

1837
01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:55,839
weather situations at our fingertips

1838
01:09:01,749 --> 01:08:58,960
there's all kinds of investigative tools

1839
01:09:03,910 --> 01:09:01,759
for looking into a report in particular

1840
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:03,920
you're looking into you can even go back

1841
01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:06,080
okay what was the weather back on this

1842
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:08,560
day in 19 you know 82 or something like

1843
01:09:12,309 --> 01:09:10,400
that i do believe you can find all that

1844
01:09:13,749 --> 01:09:12,319
information out

1845
01:09:15,349 --> 01:09:13,759
yeah yeah there's

1846
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:15,359
yeah i mean we have

1847
01:09:19,269 --> 01:09:17,520
researchers too have done so much work

1848
01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:19,279
you know over the years so there's also

1849
01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:21,440
a lot of connecting the dots and sharing

1850
01:09:23,829 --> 01:09:22,640
notes and

1851
01:09:28,070 --> 01:09:23,839
um

1852
01:09:30,550 --> 01:09:28,080
together you know and getting getting

1853
01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:30,560
two and getting a new uh

1854
01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:32,799
a new angle on things right

1855
01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:35,920
there's uh a you know an apparent to get

1856
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:39,440
real like roswelli and you know kind of

1857
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:42,799
cuckoo a little bit uh there is this you

1858
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:47,440
know alleged uh recording with um

1859
01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:49,600
a woman who claimed to have been to the

1860
01:09:53,349 --> 01:09:51,359
roswell crash site

1861
01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:53,359
with albert einstein now she has since

1862
01:09:56,950 --> 01:09:54,400
passed

1863
01:09:59,430 --> 01:09:56,960
um but we do have the recording of her

1864
01:10:01,510 --> 01:09:59,440
sharing this testimony and i've i've

1865
01:10:02,630 --> 01:10:01,520
it was in contact with the journalist

1866
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:02,640
you know who

1867
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:04,880
released this information and you know

1868
01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:08,080
he i think genuinely tracked down uh

1869
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:10,960
this recording it was difficult to get

1870
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:12,000
out and

1871
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:15,120
if if we could verify any aspects

1872
01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:17,440
you know of her testimony that would be

1873
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:19,760
a huge new angle

1874
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:20,640
right

1875
01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:24,000
for for ufology and it would absolutely

1876
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,280
be relevant

1877
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:27,840
to today and understanding the tic tac

1878
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:30,000
ufos so even though people might be

1879
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:32,000
telling me to move on from roswell i'm

1880
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:35,280
i'm not going to do it i refuse to

1881
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:38,080
you happen to know what you're doing

1882
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:39,360
do you have to know what year that was

1883
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:41,280
recorded

1884
01:10:46,149 --> 01:10:43,920
i do not off the top of my head but i

1885
01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:46,159
can i can look it up for you guys

1886
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:48,960
probably before the interview is over i

1887
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:50,640
have a whole youtube video about it i

1888
01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:52,640
just you know shared

1889
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:55,360
shared highlights from the recording

1890
01:11:01,430 --> 01:10:59,040
and i really tried i've been trying

1891
01:11:03,830 --> 01:11:01,440
um you know whatever what details you

1892
01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:03,840
know from her recording can i then you

1893
01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:06,320
know go look up something new or go you

1894
01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:09,120
know find something new so if anybody

1895
01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:10,880
else you know

1896
01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:12,960
can find some clues you know from that

1897
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:14,560
recording that would be great i'm trying

1898
01:11:17,270 --> 01:11:16,159
to look it up here

1899
01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:17,280
um

1900
01:11:23,590 --> 01:11:20,480
it's so it's sure it's dr shirley wright

1901
01:11:25,110 --> 01:11:23,600
is the woman who apparently gave this

1902
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:25,120
recording

1903
01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:26,400
1993

1904
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,520
released oh i'd say oh yeah that would

1905
01:11:35,669 --> 01:11:33,920
be great if we could

1906
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:35,679
find some new clues in that or or just

1907
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:37,920
totally disprove it right and i couldn't

1908
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:40,000
i can't disprove it either right so

1909
01:11:43,189 --> 01:11:41,760
that's the fun part obviously that was

1910
01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:43,199
the first thing i tried to do is there

1911
01:11:47,110 --> 01:11:44,719
anything i could do

1912
01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:47,120
to disprove that this lady existed

1913
01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:48,719
existed or that this couldn't have

1914
01:11:54,149 --> 01:11:51,280
happened and

1915
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:54,159
of course you know people doubt that the

1916
01:11:57,350 --> 01:11:55,920
ufo that there was ever a ufo that

1917
01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:57,360
crashed in roswell so that would be a

1918
01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:59,440
reason to doubt her story

1919
01:12:03,669 --> 01:12:01,440
but beyond that you know i couldn't find

1920
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:03,679
you know any major uh ways to debunk

1921
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:06,000
this i'm i'm still actively looking into

1922
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:09,280
that one and and any of again i think

1923
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:10,800
texas is

1924
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,880
a big clue here as well because if

1925
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:14,480
roswell was not you know if that wasn't

1926
01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:16,560
a flying saucer what are all these

1927
01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:18,159
saucers doing

1928
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:21,199
um showing up in texas and you know in

1929
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:23,600
west all australia in the 60s and you

1930
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:25,920
know just all over there's so many

1931
01:12:28,390 --> 01:12:27,360
documented

1932
01:12:30,310 --> 01:12:28,400
cases

1933
01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:30,320
of these discs

1934
01:12:35,189 --> 01:12:33,040
so what what's happening that roswell

1935
01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:35,199
was just a fluke and then it just

1936
01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:37,520
doesn't it doesn't make sense to me

1937
01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:39,280
well even if you took if you took

1938
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:42,159
roswell completely out of the picture

1939
01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:46,000
it's still there's just so many cases

1940
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:47,760
and we can't

1941
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:49,120
obviously can't

1942
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:51,360
discount all these people

1943
01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:54,000
you know i saw something myself that i

1944
01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:55,360
couldn't explain

1945
01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:57,840
but never mind me what about all these

1946
01:13:02,709 --> 01:13:00,400
multiple witness sightings that have

1947
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:02,719
seen so many incredible things over the

1948
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:05,440
years you can't just say

1949
01:13:08,709 --> 01:13:06,640
uh

1950
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:08,719
that there's nothing to it

1951
01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:10,000
and anyone

1952
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:12,800
that is out there you know that's thinks

1953
01:13:17,189 --> 01:13:15,040
there's nothing to it i challenge you to

1954
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:17,199
take a look deeply into it

1955
01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:19,520
and i do believe you will change your

1956
01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:22,560
mind i that which kind of this is

1957
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:23,920
completely

1958
01:13:26,550 --> 01:13:24,880
um

1959
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:26,560
off topic but i do want to bring it up

1960
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:29,199
because i get i don't know

1961
01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:30,880
at least one or two emails a week

1962
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:32,560
sometimes a lot more

1963
01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:36,480
and that is about the aerial phenomenon

1964
01:13:39,510 --> 01:13:37,520
movie

1965
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:39,520
because i have been

1966
01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:41,760
you know uh in contact with randall

1967
01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:44,239
nickerson the film creator for years and

1968
01:13:47,750 --> 01:13:45,280
years

1969
01:13:49,669 --> 01:13:47,760
i have not uh i've reached out to him a

1970
01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:49,679
number of times i'm not hearing from him

1971
01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:51,600
i do not know

1972
01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:53,840
just to let everyone know

1973
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:56,400
i do not know what is going on i only

1974
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:00,159
have heard rumors from people in the

1975
01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:03,040
business the film business more or less

1976
01:14:05,669 --> 01:14:04,640
that it's possible it's going to be

1977
01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:05,679
coming out

1978
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:08,159
before spring i was told last year it

1979
01:14:12,149 --> 01:14:09,840
was going to come out before the end of

1980
01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:12,159
the year it never happened

1981
01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:14,000
it's going to be most likely on a

1982
01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:16,960
streaming platform as far as i know but

1983
01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:18,960
i really i'm not the all i'm getting at

1984
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:21,760
is i'm not the person to go to

1985
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:23,040
to uh

1986
01:14:26,229 --> 01:14:24,480
give you any information on that

1987
01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:26,239
unfortunately i wish i knew

1988
01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:28,320
because i'm i'm waiting just like

1989
01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:31,280
everybody else i can't wait uh knowing

1990
01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:33,679
uh randall nickerson's work

1991
01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:36,560
he's extremely fussy he's extremely good

1992
01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:38,880
when that comes out that is i think it

1993
01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:39,920
will be

1994
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:41,679
oh it's gonna push the needle a little

1995
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:43,840
more that's one of that is i consider

1996
01:14:49,669 --> 01:14:45,600
that

1997
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:49,679
of them all

1998
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:52,640
think oh gosh

1999
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:55,360
for sure and and that was also a saucer

2000
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:56,719
i think i mean if you look at the

2001
01:15:01,910 --> 01:14:59,679
pictures of the ufo so it's like yeah i

2002
01:15:04,709 --> 01:15:01,920
mean what what's going on here um yeah i

2003
01:15:06,709 --> 01:15:04,719
know the the zimbabwe case i've i've

2004
01:15:08,149 --> 01:15:06,719
tried to reach out to some of the

2005
01:15:10,229 --> 01:15:08,159
witnesses in the past to get an

2006
01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:10,239
interview and you know was not able to

2007
01:15:15,910 --> 01:15:13,360
get one so i would yeah i'd love to

2008
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:15,920
um i can't wait for that to come out i'm

2009
01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:19,920
not a big ufo documentary or book reader

2010
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:22,400
and some of that's just time and then a

2011
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:24,719
lot of that is a little bit intentional

2012
01:15:29,590 --> 01:15:27,679
right so i feel like i want to look at

2013
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:29,600
the files and evidence and the videos

2014
01:15:31,750 --> 01:15:30,960
and the photos

2015
01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:31,760
uh

2016
01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:32,800
as

2017
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:40,880
kind of avoid it but

2018
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:43,920
this the aerial school incident

2019
01:15:49,590 --> 01:15:46,000
i yeah i'm i'm going to be watching this

2020
01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:49,600
one so yeah just for the i know

2021
01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:51,840
um the reason i'm saying anything about

2022
01:15:55,030 --> 01:15:53,600
this right now is because there's a lot

2023
01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:55,040
of people that are just

2024
01:16:00,149 --> 01:15:56,800
looking into this topic that have found

2025
01:16:01,669 --> 01:16:00,159
my show and i do appreciate you uh

2026
01:16:04,149 --> 01:16:01,679
watching or listening however you're

2027
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:04,159
doing it but uh that particular case you

2028
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:06,480
can just google it the ariel school

2029
01:16:10,709 --> 01:16:08,000
uh info

2030
01:16:12,950 --> 01:16:10,719
incident happened back in 1994

2031
01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:12,960
and uh so i welcome you to look into

2032
01:16:16,870 --> 01:16:14,800
that because that is a fascinating case

2033
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:16,880
we don't really need to get in to that

2034
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:18,960
right now but uh it's it's really

2035
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:21,760
incredible and i have you know one of

2036
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:23,360
the things that's so compelling about

2037
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:24,480
that is

2038
01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:26,400
is the john mack interviews with the

2039
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:28,640
children child psychologist harvard

2040
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:31,120
trained a harvard professor

2041
01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:33,040
and at the time when he was interviewing

2042
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:34,960
those kids it was just

2043
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:36,320
so uh

2044
01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:38,000
boggling the some of the things that

2045
01:16:41,830 --> 01:16:40,320
they were saying so i have not seen

2046
01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:41,840
those films i think a lot of them have

2047
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:44,320
taken down off of youtube unfortunately

2048
01:16:48,550 --> 01:16:45,760
but

2049
01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:48,560
compelling

2050
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:51,199
these were like ah oh wait let's put you

2051
01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:52,719
up on the full screen hold on you can't

2052
01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:54,480
see it you can't see it but those were

2053
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,360
the the drawings oh yeah people who are

2054
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:59,760
not familiar with the zimbabwe incident

2055
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:01,280
those are the drawings that the children

2056
01:17:06,630 --> 01:17:04,880
drew or some of them yeah

2057
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:06,640
and that was like immediately right

2058
01:17:11,189 --> 01:17:07,760
after

2059
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:11,199
yep the the one thing i the teachers had

2060
01:17:16,070 --> 01:17:12,640
the foresight

2061
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:16,080
to actually have the kids draw what they

2062
01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:17,760
they saw right away which i think that

2063
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:18,640
is

2064
01:17:22,870 --> 01:17:20,800
that was such a game changer really

2065
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,880
because it was fresh in their minds at

2066
01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:24,239
the time and

2067
01:17:28,950 --> 01:17:26,400
people said

2068
01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:28,960
and they drew something very similar all

2069
01:17:32,550 --> 01:17:31,199
of them especially with the eyes and

2070
01:17:34,470 --> 01:17:32,560
everything

2071
01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:34,480
and i know people have followed this

2072
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:37,840
show um have seen when i had selma cydic

2073
01:17:43,110 --> 01:17:40,320
she was one of the children there and

2074
01:17:45,590 --> 01:17:43,120
you know she was describing the skin

2075
01:17:48,390 --> 01:17:45,600
to be like porcelain

2076
01:17:51,350 --> 01:17:48,400
and she said when she had to break away

2077
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:51,360
and go look for her siblings that

2078
01:17:55,590 --> 01:17:53,280
breaking eye contact

2079
01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:55,600
from four feet away about four feet away

2080
01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:58,400
from this being whatever it was that it

2081
01:18:03,669 --> 01:17:59,920
was one of the hardest things she ever

2082
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:03,679
had to do was to break eye contact

2083
01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:05,920
which i think is another fascinating

2084
01:18:12,070 --> 01:18:08,800
thing it's such an incredible story i

2085
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:12,080
know we're way off at texas ufos

2086
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:14,800
i love i mean it's all yeah all relevant

2087
01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:17,120
relevant to my world so michael brown

2088
01:18:21,669 --> 01:18:19,199
wants to know so what's new

2089
01:18:23,270 --> 01:18:21,679
uh is there you you mentioned some of

2090
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:23,280
the new things that you have been

2091
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:25,440
looking into but

2092
01:18:30,709 --> 01:18:29,040
um i also saw that you did a jet blue

2093
01:18:32,709 --> 01:18:30,719
uh yeah we go do you want to talk a

2094
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:32,719
little bit about that yeah that one's an

2095
01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:35,760
interesting one uh so

2096
01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:37,679
yeah so i mean there's always sightings

2097
01:18:43,030 --> 01:18:38,640
you know

2098
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:43,040
as far as what's new well i mean the

2099
01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:45,840
orbs the triangles even the discs to

2100
01:18:50,070 --> 01:18:47,360
some extent i mean they're all being

2101
01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:50,080
seen actively people do report the greys

2102
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:52,320
and the reptilians and even the praying

2103
01:18:56,229 --> 01:18:54,480
mantis i mean so in a nutshell it's it's

2104
01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:56,239
all happening

2105
01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:59,920
uh but yeah so this was a really uh

2106
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:01,600
kind of cool video so it's actually

2107
01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:03,920
posted to reddit

2108
01:19:10,870 --> 01:19:07,679
and it shows it's taken a poorly taken

2109
01:19:11,669 --> 01:19:10,880
outside the cockpit window of a

2110
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:11,679
jet

2111
01:19:14,709 --> 01:19:13,120
of a pilot

2112
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:14,719
actually if you would like i didn't mean

2113
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,320
to interrupt you

2114
01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:18,480
you know how to screen share probably

2115
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:20,080
because you use this program all the

2116
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:21,600
time if you'd like to screen share your

2117
01:19:24,790 --> 01:19:22,960
video we could

2118
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:24,800
post that up i'm not sure if you can

2119
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:27,280
type the crown through or not

2120
01:19:34,830 --> 01:19:32,310
if you don't know how to do that i i

2121
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:34,840
can't i can't i just don't have it all

2122
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:37,360
like set up and i'm afraid we're gonna

2123
01:19:39,510 --> 01:19:38,320
um

2124
01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:39,520
okay

2125
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:41,360
pull it up shoot shoot i should i should

2126
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:42,960
oh man i should have been better

2127
01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:45,440
prepared martin i would have prepared

2128
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:46,560
her

2129
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:48,640
i thought about that um

2130
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:50,640
something i just thought of yeah yeah

2131
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:51,520
yeah

2132
01:19:57,430 --> 01:19:55,040
people can check check out the footage

2133
01:19:58,870 --> 01:19:57,440
you know on my youtube channel but

2134
01:20:01,510 --> 01:19:58,880
essentially you just see this like

2135
01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:01,520
little glowing you know white orb just

2136
01:20:06,310 --> 01:20:03,600
hovering out there in the sky and then

2137
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:06,320
it's just kind of disappear and it's

2138
01:20:12,149 --> 01:20:08,960
taken you know allegedly you know out of

2139
01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:12,159
a cockpit window you know of a plane and

2140
01:20:16,229 --> 01:20:13,920
allegedly this footage has been

2141
01:20:19,510 --> 01:20:16,239
circulating with circulating between jet

2142
01:20:22,310 --> 01:20:19,520
blue pilots so who are going over it and

2143
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:22,320
and back and forth and so

2144
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:24,480
you know i did you know

2145
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:26,320
you know light analysis

2146
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:28,000
on it and it you know it's definitely

2147
01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:29,520
yeah it looks like martin's pulling it

2148
01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:47,590
oh okay i just see a black right now and

2149
01:20:51,189 --> 01:20:48,719
then can hear

2150
01:20:53,110 --> 01:20:51,199
me talking about it all right let me see

2151
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:53,120
what's going on

2152
01:20:57,350 --> 01:20:55,280
there we go there we go

2153
01:20:59,910 --> 01:20:57,360
so yeah here we go here's the

2154
01:21:01,990 --> 01:20:59,920
aspect ratio is a little annoying um

2155
01:21:05,750 --> 01:21:02,000
this is vertical

2156
01:21:08,149 --> 01:21:05,760
round speed 500 37 000 feet nothing this

2157
01:21:10,229 --> 01:21:08,159
was the testimony that sent along with

2158
01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:10,239
it

2159
01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:14,320
google

2160
01:21:17,669 --> 01:21:16,080
see yeah you can clip cord a little bit

2161
01:21:18,550 --> 01:21:17,679
well

2162
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:18,560
yeah

2163
01:21:22,629 --> 01:21:21,040
i'm not sure

2164
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:22,639
there is a full so there was a full

2165
01:21:27,110 --> 01:21:25,040
testimony that was attached with the

2166
01:21:28,709 --> 01:21:27,120
sighting so the pilot you know is first

2167
01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:28,719
and things that they see in the sky and

2168
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:29,840
it wasn't

2169
01:21:32,709 --> 01:21:30,960
um

2170
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:32,719
they weren't able to identify it while

2171
01:21:37,590 --> 01:21:34,800
flying essentially

2172
01:21:38,550 --> 01:21:37,600
yeah well yeah

2173
01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:38,560
bummer

2174
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:40,239
yeah well i'm on the road and i have

2175
01:21:45,669 --> 01:21:43,040
very uh i have bill working on the other

2176
01:21:48,709 --> 01:21:45,679
end because i have very very poor signal

2177
01:21:51,669 --> 01:21:48,719
here so i'm really very happy so far

2178
01:21:53,110 --> 01:21:51,679
that i haven't crashed

2179
01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:53,120
but uh

2180
01:21:55,510 --> 01:21:54,400
um

2181
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:55,520
anyway

2182
01:22:00,470 --> 01:21:57,920
this uh i think what i'm gonna do at

2183
01:22:01,830 --> 01:22:00,480
this point is just open the lines if

2184
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:01,840
someone would like to

2185
01:22:04,870 --> 01:22:03,679
call in i'm gonna put the phone number

2186
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:04,880
up here bill

2187
01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:06,480
will be standing by

2188
01:22:09,910 --> 01:22:08,000
and uh

2189
01:22:11,510 --> 01:22:09,920
and i actually do have it up here martin

2190
01:22:13,270 --> 01:22:11,520
real quick if you want me to share real

2191
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:13,280
quick yeah if you can do it sure go

2192
01:22:15,270 --> 01:22:14,080
ahead

2193
01:22:19,750 --> 01:22:15,280
yeah

2194
01:22:22,070 --> 01:22:19,760
so

2195
01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:22,080
all right can you guys see that

2196
01:22:25,990 --> 01:22:23,600
uh we're not seeing anything on this

2197
01:22:26,950 --> 01:22:26,000
side here oh and i'm not sure if you

2198
01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:26,960
have to

2199
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:29,199
oh okay let's see let's see let's see

2200
01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:31,440
actually both of you i uploaded the

2201
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:32,800
video

2202
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:33,760
oh okay

2203
01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:35,520
yeah so it's you can play it martin

2204
01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:38,560
whenever you're ready

2205
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:40,480
thank you bill i have bill working

2206
01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:41,840
behind the scenes

2207
01:22:47,030 --> 01:22:44,560
like uh actually taking the position i

2208
01:22:49,270 --> 01:22:47,040
usually do so okay he's able to do all

2209
01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:49,280
these things here we go we're gonna run

2210
01:22:53,189 --> 01:22:51,760
it how about that here we go hey folks

2211
01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:53,199
it's ufo jane and i want to share a

2212
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:55,440
recent texas ufo sighting with you today

2213
01:22:59,669 --> 01:22:57,520
but before i do this remember you can

2214
01:23:02,229 --> 01:22:59,679
fast forward this part if you want

2215
01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:02,239
yo and subscribe to the channel and turn

2216
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:04,480
on notifications

2217
01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:06,719
all right so okay you can subscribe it's

2218
01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:09,600
appreciated that was posted by a user

2219
01:23:15,669 --> 01:23:12,560
named offshore attorney

2220
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:15,679
a pilot saw a ufo while flying over

2221
01:23:18,310 --> 01:23:16,880
texas

2222
01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:18,320
the sighting occurred during the day at

2223
01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:20,960
3 20 central sometime in early to mid

2224
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:24,000
january a jet blue pilot sent the video

2225
01:23:27,990 --> 01:23:25,920
to their best friend

2226
01:23:31,430 --> 01:23:28,000
with the following description

2227
01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:31,440
ground speed 500 37 000 feet nothing

2228
01:23:37,270 --> 01:23:33,920
showing on radar for atc and nothing

2229
01:23:39,430 --> 01:23:37,280
showing on the tcas now i am a super

2230
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:39,440
genius when it comes to google so i

2231
01:23:45,189 --> 01:23:42,480
think atc means air traffic control and

2232
01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:45,199
tcas means traffic alert and collision

2233
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:47,520
avoidance system alright moving on we

2234
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:49,360
witnessed it for about five minutes at

2235
01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:51,280
which point it disappeared and then came

2236
01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:53,920
back it looked like two boxes melting

2237
01:23:58,550 --> 01:23:55,600
into each other

2238
01:23:59,350 --> 01:23:58,560
i have no idea just imagine that in your

2239
01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:59,360
head

2240
01:24:03,430 --> 01:24:01,199
okay so they then wrote actual sighting

2241
01:24:06,070 --> 01:24:03,440
was spectacular beyond what this video

2242
01:24:07,669 --> 01:24:06,080
shows we were stunned

2243
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:07,679
alright let's watch the video together

2244
01:24:11,669 --> 01:24:09,679
spoiler alert it does not show two boxes

2245
01:24:17,270 --> 01:24:11,679
melting into each other but it is

2246
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:32,709
do you see it it's right there

2247
01:24:37,830 --> 01:24:35,590
okay okay okay so we see an orb and it

2248
01:24:41,670 --> 01:24:37,840
seems to mysteriously vanish so let's

2249
01:24:55,440 --> 01:24:41,680
get a closer view

2250
01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:06,840
[Music]

2251
01:25:15,830 --> 01:25:13,590
well that i i

2252
01:25:19,350 --> 01:25:15,840
wouldn't normally uh

2253
01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:19,360
drop that off but and it does you go in

2254
01:25:23,189 --> 01:25:21,440
closer and i said it's good work i like

2255
01:25:25,590 --> 01:25:23,199
your sense of humor by the way yeah i

2256
01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:25,600
didn't mean to for you guys to have to

2257
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:27,520
hear all that but um

2258
01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:29,520
no no it's good it's good

2259
01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:31,440
but um the reason i'm breaking here is

2260
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:34,320
because we have um we do have some we

2261
01:25:38,950 --> 01:25:37,120
have a couple of callers waiting so i

2262
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:38,960
thought it would be a good idea to bring

2263
01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:42,480
them in and we are going to start right

2264
01:25:46,149 --> 01:25:43,440
away

2265
01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:46,159
with stephen in michigan stephen you are

2266
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:49,520
live on the air welcome to the show

2267
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:50,960
hi martin and jane thank you for an

2268
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:53,360
amazing show every time i see martin has

2269
01:25:59,830 --> 01:25:55,760
a new guest on uh it it makes my day so

2270
01:26:01,830 --> 01:25:59,840
thank you to both of you well thank you

2271
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:01,840
yeah my question i have no questions

2272
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:05,040
yeah i do i'll make it quick um jane i

2273
01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:07,520
like your thoughts on the overall safety

2274
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:10,320
of investigating these ufo reports

2275
01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:12,719
i just turned 27 um i've been

2276
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,400
researching for about the past five

2277
01:26:18,709 --> 01:26:16,239
years and i've gotten to a point in

2278
01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:18,719
which i truly don't feel safe poking and

2279
01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:21,280
prodding any more than i already have

2280
01:26:25,910 --> 01:26:23,280
to be specific i've gone to a point of

2281
01:26:28,149 --> 01:26:25,920
actively searching and calling for a ufo

2282
01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:28,159
to appear but i've quickly abandoned

2283
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:30,000
that practice as the majority of

2284
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:31,840
interactions i've heard discussed are

2285
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:33,840
quite negative with many people saying

2286
01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:35,280
they wish they never had these

2287
01:26:39,430 --> 01:26:37,280
encounters in the first place

2288
01:26:41,990 --> 01:26:39,440
what are your thoughts on this um also

2289
01:26:45,030 --> 01:26:42,000
quick side note jordan peele has a new

2290
01:26:47,430 --> 01:26:45,040
horror movie called coming out called no

2291
01:26:49,910 --> 01:26:47,440
it's about ufos have you seen that

2292
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:49,920
trailer i'll take my answer off the air

2293
01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:52,000
thank you and god bless you both

2294
01:26:54,470 --> 01:26:53,120
thank you

2295
01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:54,480
hi stephen

2296
01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:55,840
so

2297
01:26:59,750 --> 01:26:58,159
i have yes i've seen nope

2298
01:27:03,270 --> 01:26:59,760
the trailer it i don't know if you've

2299
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:03,280
seen it martin but it looks so

2300
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:05,840
stinking good i cannot wait

2301
01:27:11,110 --> 01:27:08,480
i my first love before ufos was really

2302
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:11,120
movies and so we actually have um a

2303
01:27:16,229 --> 01:27:13,440
youtube show where we talk about the

2304
01:27:18,149 --> 01:27:16,239
behind the scenes of movies and you know

2305
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:18,159
the real stuff so you know we just went

2306
01:27:22,149 --> 01:27:19,920
in depth on close encounters of the the

2307
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:22,159
third kind and nope is gonna be one that

2308
01:27:25,830 --> 01:27:24,320
we'll definitely be talking about for

2309
01:27:27,430 --> 01:27:25,840
weird hollywood this summer when it

2310
01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:27,440
comes out people should check out that

2311
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:29,520
trailer it's also just a great movie

2312
01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:31,440
trailer because you just don't know

2313
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:33,120
what's going to happen it's a true

2314
01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:35,840
trailer and it leaves you guessing and

2315
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:37,600
wanting to know more

2316
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:39,600
could you say the the title to that one

2317
01:27:44,830 --> 01:27:42,000
more time so it's nope

2318
01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:44,840
there might it might be n-o-p-e

2319
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:46,400
yeah

2320
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:52,400
of planet earth i think uh wait not

2321
01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:54,960
yeah yeah not of planet earth i think is

2322
01:28:00,390 --> 01:27:56,719
what it stands for

2323
01:28:01,990 --> 01:28:00,400
oh not a planet yeah yeah and so it yeah

2324
01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:02,000
it looks amazing i don't even want to

2325
01:28:05,750 --> 01:28:04,400
say i just go watch the i mean not now

2326
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:05,760
later

2327
01:28:11,590 --> 01:28:09,440
trailer and

2328
01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:11,600
yeah yeah and did the other part of the

2329
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:13,920
question oh my gosh what was the other

2330
01:28:19,350 --> 01:28:16,560
it was a good question oh yes um

2331
01:28:20,950 --> 01:28:19,360
so the whole idea of contacting ufos and

2332
01:28:21,910 --> 01:28:20,960
is this an experience you want to have

2333
01:28:23,990 --> 01:28:21,920
or not

2334
01:28:25,189 --> 01:28:24,000
so for me you know i haven't had an

2335
01:28:27,350 --> 01:28:25,199
experience

2336
01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:27,360
at least as far as i know i also haven't

2337
01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:29,520
done you know hypnotherapy or anything

2338
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:30,560
who knows

2339
01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:33,280
but i i'm not an experiencer so i can't

2340
01:28:37,030 --> 01:28:34,560
really truly

2341
01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:37,040
i guess give advice from that

2342
01:28:40,950 --> 01:28:39,120
perspective so i can only just really

2343
01:28:44,550 --> 01:28:40,960
look at what i've documented over the

2344
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:44,560
years and i really struggle to recommend

2345
01:28:47,830 --> 01:28:46,560
trying to contact these things

2346
01:28:51,350 --> 01:28:47,840
so i

2347
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:51,360
i say if you see a ufo don't go up to it

2348
01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:53,840
and i would say be very careful

2349
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:56,480
if you are seeking ufo sightings or

2350
01:29:03,669 --> 01:28:59,040
encounters and um i would go into it

2351
01:29:05,910 --> 01:29:03,679
with very open eyes and a safe plan and

2352
01:29:08,830 --> 01:29:05,920
you know maybe maybe some protection you

2353
01:29:11,590 --> 01:29:08,840
know whatever that looks like to you

2354
01:29:14,550 --> 01:29:11,600
because look if this is real and you

2355
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:14,560
really do believe that they are visiting

2356
01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:16,960
that's a big deal to ask for a ride on

2357
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:19,679
their ship or invite them into your life

2358
01:29:23,669 --> 01:29:21,360
so if you really do believe that i would

2359
01:29:24,470 --> 01:29:23,679
take it very seriously

2360
01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:24,480
and

2361
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:26,639
i would just go into it with the right

2362
01:29:33,189 --> 01:29:29,440
attitude and mindset uh maybe with

2363
01:29:34,229 --> 01:29:33,199
others people do see e5 you know group

2364
01:29:39,590 --> 01:29:34,239
um

2365
01:29:41,110 --> 01:29:39,600
ufos that seems to be a safer way to do

2366
01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:41,120
it than just like sitting in front of

2367
01:29:45,030 --> 01:29:42,800
your house

2368
01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:45,040
on a random day right

2369
01:29:49,990 --> 01:29:47,600
as far as the negative experiences so

2370
01:29:53,030 --> 01:29:50,000
yeah i mean the reason i would

2371
01:29:55,350 --> 01:29:53,040
hesitate to recommend to

2372
01:29:56,229 --> 01:29:55,360
try to see a ufo is well because i don't

2373
01:30:02,629 --> 01:29:56,239
know

2374
01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:02,639
or not or if this is positive

2375
01:30:06,709 --> 01:30:04,400
this could be a very dark thing that's

2376
01:30:07,590 --> 01:30:06,719
going on the idea of somebody kidnapping

2377
01:30:13,830 --> 01:30:07,600
you

2378
01:30:15,910 --> 01:30:13,840
mean these are the stories we hear so

2379
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:15,920
yes they're quite frightening and i

2380
01:30:21,110 --> 01:30:18,320
wouldn't wish this upon somebody

2381
01:30:22,870 --> 01:30:21,120
that said uh

2382
01:30:25,750 --> 01:30:22,880
these could be

2383
01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:25,760
uh a lot of people have very positive

2384
01:30:31,430 --> 01:30:28,000
experiences and

2385
01:30:34,709 --> 01:30:31,440
positive uh interpretations of what has

2386
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:34,719
happened to them so even travis walton

2387
01:30:39,030 --> 01:30:36,800
who had a very

2388
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:39,040
negative experience at the time i think

2389
01:30:43,430 --> 01:30:41,440
he felt that way at the time very scared

2390
01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:43,440
i believe in his later years he's come

2391
01:30:47,590 --> 01:30:45,760
to more of a conclusion that when he was

2392
01:30:50,470 --> 01:30:47,600
knocked down by the beam of light that

2393
01:30:52,629 --> 01:30:50,480
he could have been injured and that

2394
01:30:54,950 --> 01:30:52,639
those exams were actually you know the

2395
01:30:57,510 --> 01:30:54,960
aliens fixing him

2396
01:30:59,750 --> 01:30:57,520
so you know it could very well be that

2397
01:31:03,430 --> 01:30:59,760
these visitors have

2398
01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:03,440
you know are helping us or studying us

2399
01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:05,760
do mean well and

2400
01:31:09,750 --> 01:31:07,920
that those that come into contact are

2401
01:31:11,750 --> 01:31:09,760
better for it you know people describe

2402
01:31:13,910 --> 01:31:11,760
being more psychic after

2403
01:31:17,110 --> 01:31:13,920
word or you know maybe not as being

2404
01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:17,120
afraid of death or things like that so

2405
01:31:19,110 --> 01:31:17,920
i

2406
01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:19,120
uh

2407
01:31:22,709 --> 01:31:20,800
you know i think attitude is important

2408
01:31:24,149 --> 01:31:22,719
and if you've had an experience i

2409
01:31:28,070 --> 01:31:24,159
certainly don't think it would be

2410
01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:29,830
remember it as a very negative

2411
01:31:35,750 --> 01:31:32,400
experience because that's you know

2412
01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:35,760
difficult to process and overcome and i

2413
01:31:40,390 --> 01:31:37,679
think it's probably healthy

2414
01:31:43,830 --> 01:31:40,400
to try to seek some actual logical

2415
01:31:45,030 --> 01:31:43,840
reason for it and there probably is one

2416
01:31:49,350 --> 01:31:45,040
it's hard

2417
01:31:51,830 --> 01:31:49,360
are evil beings you know torturing us i

2418
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:51,840
don't think that's what's going on here

2419
01:31:54,790 --> 01:31:52,960
um

2420
01:31:59,110 --> 01:31:54,800
but yeah i i'm not one of those people

2421
01:32:00,310 --> 01:31:59,120
that's gonna set up a ce5 group anytime

2422
01:32:01,110 --> 01:32:00,320
soon

2423
01:32:02,629 --> 01:32:01,120
um

2424
01:32:05,350 --> 01:32:02,639
yeah yeah

2425
01:32:07,510 --> 01:32:05,360
yeah well i yeah i have a friend that

2426
01:32:08,950 --> 01:32:07,520
did one of those and it was actually

2427
01:32:10,229 --> 01:32:08,960
pretty comical

2428
01:32:11,590 --> 01:32:10,239
some of the things that happened there

2429
01:32:13,910 --> 01:32:11,600
and i

2430
01:32:16,390 --> 01:32:13,920
don't need to get into it but uh

2431
01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:16,400
but there was some wild imaginations

2432
01:32:21,110 --> 01:32:18,480
i'll just put it that way

2433
01:32:23,350 --> 01:32:21,120
so right now we have ken on the line

2434
01:32:26,629 --> 01:32:23,360
from massachusetts ken welcome to the

2435
01:32:29,110 --> 01:32:26,639
show you're live on the air hey ken hi

2436
01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:29,120
martin and jane another fantastic show

2437
01:32:36,070 --> 01:32:32,320
tonight martin okay my question mr jay

2438
01:32:38,870 --> 01:32:36,080
my question to gene i um research

2439
01:32:40,310 --> 01:32:38,880
old cases of new cases in my home state

2440
01:32:42,070 --> 01:32:40,320
and you know nothing gets the blood

2441
01:32:45,510 --> 01:32:42,080
pumping more like you see a article in

2442
01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:45,520
the newspaper online oh ufo sighted

2443
01:32:50,709 --> 01:32:48,400
and my question to her is what's her

2444
01:32:52,149 --> 01:32:50,719
opinion on then when you get all hyped

2445
01:32:54,390 --> 01:32:52,159
up and read the article and they show

2446
01:32:56,070 --> 01:32:54,400
you a video and it's quite clearly

2447
01:32:57,510 --> 01:32:56,080
chinese lanterns

2448
01:32:59,189 --> 01:32:57,520
or i don't know if you've seen the

2449
01:33:01,990 --> 01:32:59,199
latest one did you see the one from

2450
01:33:04,310 --> 01:33:02,000
hawaii where mysterious object hovers

2451
01:33:07,110 --> 01:33:04,320
over hawaii two fighter jets are

2452
01:33:08,950 --> 01:33:07,120
scrambled you can see the picture in two

2453
01:33:11,350 --> 01:33:08,960
seconds you can see a balloon with a

2454
01:33:13,430 --> 01:33:11,360
string hanging down holding a payload

2455
01:33:15,830 --> 01:33:13,440
underneath it you know and so what's

2456
01:33:18,390 --> 01:33:15,840
your opinion is is

2457
01:33:19,910 --> 01:33:18,400
reports like that helpful

2458
01:33:23,990 --> 01:33:19,920
or you know because it's getting

2459
01:33:26,229 --> 01:33:24,000
exposure to ufo uh subject or hurting it

2460
01:33:29,350 --> 01:33:26,239
because you know people look into it oh

2461
01:33:30,390 --> 01:33:29,360
it's a balloon oh it's a chinese land so

2462
01:33:31,669 --> 01:33:30,400
what's your opinion i'll take the

2463
01:33:32,950 --> 01:33:31,679
interruption

2464
01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:32,960
thank you ken

2465
01:33:37,910 --> 01:33:36,239
that's a great question and early on

2466
01:33:40,390 --> 01:33:37,920
when i saw chinese lanterns i thought

2467
01:33:41,669 --> 01:33:40,400
aliens were invading okay so it's super

2468
01:33:43,590 --> 01:33:41,679
normal

2469
01:33:45,189 --> 01:33:43,600
to be frightened by that and to report

2470
01:33:46,470 --> 01:33:45,199
it you're not crazy you're actually just

2471
01:33:48,229 --> 01:33:46,480
paying attention

2472
01:33:50,229 --> 01:33:48,239
and yeah there are a lot of really

2473
01:33:52,629 --> 01:33:50,239
fantastical things that then become

2474
01:33:54,550 --> 01:33:52,639
quite mundane you know as a researcher

2475
01:33:56,390 --> 01:33:54,560
and you go through those cycles in this

2476
01:33:58,629 --> 01:33:56,400
process i mean we were just looking at

2477
01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:58,639
some footage that definitely you could

2478
01:34:02,310 --> 01:34:00,719
say oh that's just a balloon that that

2479
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:02,320
footage was interesting to me

2480
01:34:07,669 --> 01:34:05,440
considering the pilot perspective and

2481
01:34:09,669 --> 01:34:07,679
and that and so that's why i wanted to

2482
01:34:11,750 --> 01:34:09,679
share that one but i'm regularly

2483
01:34:13,990 --> 01:34:11,760
debunking and solving cases so that's

2484
01:34:16,390 --> 01:34:14,000
the first thing i'm trying to do with

2485
01:34:19,590 --> 01:34:16,400
any ufo case is to

2486
01:34:21,990 --> 01:34:19,600
find a very mundane boring explanation

2487
01:34:24,790 --> 01:34:22,000
most cases i come across i do not report

2488
01:34:26,709 --> 01:34:24,800
on it's it looks to be a lens flare

2489
01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:26,719
chinese lanterns i have said that a lot

2490
01:34:30,830 --> 01:34:28,560
but that's just because it's just that's

2491
01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:30,840
probably the most common

2492
01:34:34,709 --> 01:34:33,120
misidentification um so if you're seeing

2493
01:34:36,870 --> 01:34:34,719
orange orbs

2494
01:34:39,669 --> 01:34:36,880
seem forming different formations

2495
01:34:41,430 --> 01:34:39,679
sometimes hovering sometimes moving and

2496
01:34:43,750 --> 01:34:41,440
then gradually disappearing that's

2497
01:34:46,149 --> 01:34:43,760
probably chinese lanterns

2498
01:34:48,149 --> 01:34:46,159
nighttime parachuters that's another

2499
01:34:49,750 --> 01:34:48,159
while yeah right you know if you haven't

2500
01:34:51,270 --> 01:34:49,760
seen that before

2501
01:34:53,189 --> 01:34:51,280
when they have the flare

2502
01:34:55,189 --> 01:34:53,199
they have the flares on their feet yeah

2503
01:34:56,149 --> 01:34:55,199
crazy looking wild looking

2504
01:34:58,310 --> 01:34:56,159
so

2505
01:35:00,310 --> 01:34:58,320
there's a lot of misidentifications i

2506
01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:00,320
don't think that most people are hoaxing

2507
01:35:04,790 --> 01:35:02,320
things or um

2508
01:35:07,510 --> 01:35:04,800
falsely reporting right i think we just

2509
01:35:10,470 --> 01:35:07,520
get carried away uh with these

2510
01:35:11,830 --> 01:35:10,480
unexplained uh lights that we see

2511
01:35:13,750 --> 01:35:11,840
is it hurting

2512
01:35:15,109 --> 01:35:13,760
i mean yeah i guess so

2513
01:35:17,030 --> 01:35:15,119
but

2514
01:35:19,510 --> 01:35:17,040
i think you know the question are we

2515
01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:19,520
alone in the universe that never goes

2516
01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:22,000
away in any time

2517
01:35:27,830 --> 01:35:23,440
that flutter

2518
01:35:29,510 --> 01:35:27,840
alien i think you know you're just

2519
01:35:32,229 --> 01:35:29,520
waiting for the next time to get that

2520
01:35:34,149 --> 01:35:32,239
feeling again so no i don't think you're

2521
01:35:36,310 --> 01:35:34,159
just like oh that was a balloon okay i'm

2522
01:35:38,550 --> 01:35:36,320
just i'm not gonna look again i mean one

2523
01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:38,560
of the most um i had this video guys

2524
01:35:41,590 --> 01:35:40,000
that was

2525
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:41,600
still deciding what to do with it

2526
01:35:45,430 --> 01:35:43,920
because i think i'd almost like to make

2527
01:35:57,830 --> 01:35:45,440
a

2528
01:36:00,070 --> 01:35:57,840
the best

2529
01:36:02,629 --> 01:36:00,080
ufo video i've ever seen in my life and

2530
01:36:05,910 --> 01:36:02,639
so i tried and tried and tried to debunk

2531
01:36:08,229 --> 01:36:05,920
it and couldn't couldn't couldn't um

2532
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:08,239
couldn't debunk it so you know we're

2533
01:36:13,430 --> 01:36:11,040
pretty close you know to traveling and

2534
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:13,440
going out uh to the field for that one

2535
01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:15,040
because it was such a big one and thank

2536
01:36:17,990 --> 01:36:15,840
god

2537
01:36:20,790 --> 01:36:18,000
um was able to

2538
01:36:23,109 --> 01:36:20,800
solve it you know before that visit and

2539
01:36:25,030 --> 01:36:23,119
that that's just how things go you know

2540
01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:25,040
you're you're about to prove aliens are

2541
01:36:30,149 --> 01:36:28,000
visiting and now um you've just proved a

2542
01:36:32,229 --> 01:36:30,159
hoax essentially yeah somebody was

2543
01:36:33,910 --> 01:36:32,239
pooping with you so

2544
01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:33,920
a lot of times

2545
01:36:41,669 --> 01:36:39,600
times it's just miss you know uh seen as

2546
01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:41,679
something else or you know i mean like

2547
01:36:45,910 --> 01:36:43,440
you mentioned you know the parachuters

2548
01:36:48,149 --> 01:36:45,920
things like that i mean it is so easy

2549
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:48,159
because a lot of times when we see

2550
01:36:52,390 --> 01:36:50,400
something it is like unbelievable for

2551
01:36:54,550 --> 01:36:52,400
instance the failed

2552
01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:54,560
missile launchers the failed rocket

2553
01:36:57,510 --> 01:36:55,520
launches

2554
01:36:59,830 --> 01:36:57,520
those have the most make the most

2555
01:37:02,550 --> 01:36:59,840
incredible ufo spirals

2556
01:37:04,470 --> 01:37:02,560
they're just amazing we have bill on the

2557
01:37:08,709 --> 01:37:04,480
line from florida bill you're live on

2558
01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:10,629
bill you're alive on the air welcome to

2559
01:37:15,430 --> 01:37:14,390
now

2560
01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:15,440
bill

2561
01:37:21,910 --> 01:37:19,840
absolutely me then i'm sorry i had that

2562
01:37:24,950 --> 01:37:21,920
muted bill sorry about that you you're

2563
01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:24,960
live now welcome to the show hey thanks

2564
01:37:28,870 --> 01:37:27,040
thank you martin and jane

2565
01:37:32,070 --> 01:37:28,880
um i heard you two talking about the

2566
01:37:33,750 --> 01:37:32,080
aerial school phenomena yeah and uh i'd

2567
01:37:35,270 --> 01:37:33,760
also heard that there were other cases

2568
01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:35,280
at schools like there was one down in

2569
01:37:42,229 --> 01:37:39,440
miami florida yes um and and uh anyway

2570
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:42,239
and it brought to mind the uh the sandy

2571
01:37:46,629 --> 01:37:44,000
hook school

2572
01:37:48,950 --> 01:37:46,639
and that there were ufo sightings over

2573
01:37:50,870 --> 01:37:48,960
that at about the same time that that

2574
01:37:52,470 --> 01:37:50,880
whole thing happened

2575
01:37:55,590 --> 01:37:52,480
i was just wanting to know what your

2576
01:37:57,750 --> 01:37:55,600
comments were on that

2577
01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:57,760
i've never heard anything about that i

2578
01:38:01,270 --> 01:37:58,719
never

2579
01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:01,280
yeah and i was reporting on

2580
01:38:05,109 --> 01:38:02,880
ufos

2581
01:38:07,430 --> 01:38:05,119
at that time

2582
01:38:08,870 --> 01:38:07,440
man what year was that but i think i

2583
01:38:13,030 --> 01:38:08,880
blocked that out

2584
01:38:18,870 --> 01:38:13,040
it's a horrible place to even remember

2585
01:38:23,990 --> 01:38:21,270
for instance has looked deeply into

2586
01:38:25,669 --> 01:38:24,000
schoolyard ufo sightings and i'm sure he

2587
01:38:28,390 --> 01:38:25,679
would have uncovered i don't know where

2588
01:38:31,189 --> 01:38:28,400
he heard that in particular but i don't

2589
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:31,199
i do not believe um bill that that's

2590
01:38:34,390 --> 01:38:32,880
anything that i've ever heard about

2591
01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:34,400
before

2592
01:38:38,870 --> 01:38:36,560
is that it bill

2593
01:38:41,109 --> 01:38:38,880
that's it thank you okay thank you

2594
01:38:43,189 --> 01:38:41,119
all right we have steve from

2595
01:38:45,430 --> 01:38:43,199
california steve welcome to the show

2596
01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:45,440
you're live

2597
01:38:50,310 --> 01:38:48,000
hi uh martin hi uh jane

2598
01:38:52,229 --> 01:38:50,320
hi hi

2599
01:38:56,709 --> 01:38:52,239
um i've been following the

2600
01:38:59,990 --> 01:38:56,719
ufo phenomena since the mid 60s

2601
01:39:01,109 --> 01:39:00,000
so uh it's progressed through the years

2602
01:39:04,870 --> 01:39:01,119
um

2603
01:39:08,310 --> 01:39:04,880
i thought gathering data information on

2604
01:39:10,070 --> 01:39:08,320
sightings uh documents etc

2605
01:39:12,390 --> 01:39:10,080
and then in the early 80s when the

2606
01:39:14,629 --> 01:39:12,400
internet went up i started collecting

2607
01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:14,639
the ufo footage

2608
01:39:19,590 --> 01:39:16,960
and then uh

2609
01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:19,600
sharing that on facebook i have a room

2610
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:22,239
called truth be code where i share all

2611
01:39:27,270 --> 01:39:25,040
the information daily with the ufo

2612
01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:27,280
sightings and news

2613
01:39:31,109 --> 01:39:29,280
and what i found out is this phenomena

2614
01:39:32,070 --> 01:39:31,119
is around the world

2615
01:39:34,709 --> 01:39:32,080
and it's

2616
01:39:35,590 --> 01:39:34,719
constantly ufo sightings every day and

2617
01:39:38,550 --> 01:39:35,600
um

2618
01:39:40,950 --> 01:39:38,560
so there's a lot to share uh there

2619
01:39:44,229 --> 01:39:40,960
and uh i've come to the conclusion i

2620
01:39:45,350 --> 01:39:44,239
come from gathering information um

2621
01:39:47,750 --> 01:39:45,360
data

2622
01:39:50,229 --> 01:39:47,760
that i'm going on that those ufo hot

2623
01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:50,239
spots such as brazil

2624
01:39:53,750 --> 01:39:51,280
um

2625
01:39:55,669 --> 01:39:53,760
and uh and i would consider texas a hot

2626
01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:55,679
spot because i get a lot of beautiful

2627
01:39:59,189 --> 01:39:58,400
footage from texas and sightings

2628
01:40:03,510 --> 01:39:59,199
uh

2629
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:03,520
do you think texas is a hot spot

2630
01:40:07,750 --> 01:40:06,159
well it's how i got into this field if

2631
01:40:10,229 --> 01:40:07,760
that makes sense so i wouldn't be doing

2632
01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:10,239
this i guess if it wasn't

2633
01:40:16,709 --> 01:40:14,000
um so yeah i do i do think so

2634
01:40:20,149 --> 01:40:16,719
and you know but whether that

2635
01:40:23,189 --> 01:40:20,159
yes maybe population per square footage

2636
01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:23,199
is low but the biggest some like if you

2637
01:40:26,229 --> 01:40:25,440
look at the top 10 cities in america i

2638
01:40:28,550 --> 01:40:26,239
think

2639
01:40:29,990 --> 01:40:28,560
three of them are in texas

2640
01:40:32,870 --> 01:40:30,000
three three or four or something like a

2641
01:40:34,629 --> 01:40:32,880
lot like san antonio houston austin's

2642
01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:34,639
now up there dallas is now there right

2643
01:40:38,470 --> 01:40:36,960
so those cities alone are going to drive

2644
01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:38,480
a ton of reports right because there's

2645
01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:40,239
just so many people

2646
01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:41,440
um

2647
01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:43,360
so whether or not that's being driven

2648
01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:45,040
just by people

2649
01:40:48,950 --> 01:40:47,600
just the number of people um is a

2650
01:40:50,390 --> 01:40:48,960
question i

2651
01:40:52,229 --> 01:40:50,400
i don't know i really think that you can

2652
01:40:55,030 --> 01:40:52,239
see a ufo anywhere

2653
01:40:56,390 --> 01:40:55,040
i really do i think you just have to be

2654
01:40:59,189 --> 01:40:56,400
paying attention

2655
01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:59,199
and looking up i live in texas and i've

2656
01:41:03,750 --> 01:41:01,280
seen one maybe one time

2657
01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:03,760
so it seems it has to do almost more

2658
01:41:06,229 --> 01:41:05,360
with the person

2659
01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:06,239
uh

2660
01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:08,159
versus the place you're in you know

2661
01:41:10,629 --> 01:41:09,440
whether or not you're gonna see

2662
01:41:12,790 --> 01:41:10,639
something

2663
01:41:15,990 --> 01:41:12,800
so i mean i know people who see things

2664
01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:16,000
all the time or witnesses that report

2665
01:41:20,310 --> 01:41:18,320
multiple encounters

2666
01:41:22,149 --> 01:41:20,320
to me you know i'm not having i'm not

2667
01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:22,159
having that experience you know we live

2668
01:41:27,669 --> 01:41:25,840
in the same state right so it's

2669
01:41:30,149 --> 01:41:27,679
yeah but yeah i mean i do there's a lot

2670
01:41:34,149 --> 01:41:30,159
of activity here for sure i can

2671
01:41:36,870 --> 01:41:34,159
totally uh totally uh corroborate that

2672
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:36,880
now race stanford are you familiar with

2673
01:41:41,030 --> 01:41:38,880
have you ever heard of ray stanford i

2674
01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:41,040
have not looked i don't i'm not an

2675
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:43,840
expert on him no i really can't yeah ray

2676
01:41:48,709 --> 01:41:46,480
stanford is a long time ufo researcher

2677
01:41:51,910 --> 01:41:48,719
he wrote a book on the socorro incident

2678
01:41:53,270 --> 01:41:51,920
that was really a very good book um he

2679
01:41:59,350 --> 01:41:53,280
actually had

2680
01:42:02,070 --> 01:41:59,360
station with something like i want to

2681
01:42:05,990 --> 01:42:03,750
maybe a million dollars worth of

2682
01:42:08,870 --> 01:42:06,000
equipment in texas

2683
01:42:10,629 --> 01:42:08,880
in the 19 late 1970s

2684
01:42:13,430 --> 01:42:10,639
and there was a lot of activity then i

2685
01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:13,440
just thought of that we do have another

2686
01:42:16,790 --> 01:42:14,480
on the line

2687
01:42:18,870 --> 01:42:16,800
that's a really nice i love that i love

2688
01:42:21,189 --> 01:42:18,880
every little um

2689
01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:21,199
nugget like that that's beautiful okay

2690
01:42:25,750 --> 01:42:22,800
so okay cool

2691
01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:25,760
yeah so um that is something you may um

2692
01:42:30,390 --> 01:42:28,719
i can't he did there was a name for the

2693
01:42:31,189 --> 01:42:30,400
company that he formed and everything

2694
01:42:33,430 --> 01:42:31,199
but

2695
01:42:36,229 --> 01:42:33,440
okay there was some activity that he

2696
01:42:39,629 --> 01:42:36,239
actually got some some data on at the

2697
01:42:42,629 --> 01:42:39,639
time oh nice okay yeah all right we have

2698
01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:42,639
joanie i think i know who that is

2699
01:42:48,470 --> 01:42:45,040
uh joanie uh welcome to the show you're

2700
01:42:49,990 --> 01:42:48,480
live on the air

2701
01:42:51,830 --> 01:42:50,000
yeah um

2702
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:51,840
my question is

2703
01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:53,600
does your guest think that there's any

2704
01:43:01,830 --> 01:42:56,639
correlation between ufos and the orb

2705
01:43:07,030 --> 01:43:04,709
so i've definitely heard

2706
01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:07,040
i haven't directly investigated or

2707
01:43:11,430 --> 01:43:08,960
reported on cases where people saw

2708
01:43:14,470 --> 01:43:11,440
bigfoot and ufos at the same time but

2709
01:43:15,669 --> 01:43:14,480
there are absolutely cases like that

2710
01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:15,679
i

2711
01:43:26,629 --> 01:43:24,800
not one of those

2712
01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:26,639
ufo researchers that only researches

2713
01:43:31,350 --> 01:43:29,280
ufos and like you know bigfoot's

2714
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:31,360
all uh all that that's all crap now i

2715
01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:32,320
think

2716
01:43:38,149 --> 01:43:35,040
bigfoot i've i've interviewed you know a

2717
01:43:39,590 --> 01:43:38,159
few bigfoot hunters and i've looked into

2718
01:43:42,149 --> 01:43:39,600
a little bit

2719
01:43:44,470 --> 01:43:42,159
but i'm not a bigfoot hunter alas myself

2720
01:43:46,950 --> 01:43:44,480
not yet so i can't i don't think

2721
01:43:47,990 --> 01:43:46,960
confidently make that connection i will

2722
01:43:49,990 --> 01:43:48,000
say

2723
01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:50,000
i like to think of bigfoot

2724
01:43:56,709 --> 01:43:53,520
as um chewy like from star wars right

2725
01:43:58,550 --> 01:43:56,719
like an intergalactic space traveler

2726
01:44:00,310 --> 01:43:58,560
right that

2727
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:00,320
can just disappear you know in an

2728
01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:03,360
instance and not leave any trace behind

2729
01:44:08,149 --> 01:44:05,760
so i mean why not why couldn't there be

2730
01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:08,159
some other interdimensional

2731
01:44:12,149 --> 01:44:10,880
traveler you know connected to ufos

2732
01:44:14,550 --> 01:44:12,159
the uh

2733
01:44:17,270 --> 01:44:14,560
the more i guess you could say

2734
01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:17,280
boring but still really cool theories

2735
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:19,199
around it simply being

2736
01:44:22,790 --> 01:44:20,800
a biological

2737
01:44:24,550 --> 01:44:22,800
missing link where there's just you know

2738
01:44:26,149 --> 01:44:24,560
a few quantities

2739
01:44:28,629 --> 01:44:26,159
of these like ape

2740
01:44:30,149 --> 01:44:28,639
like you know humanoids essentially

2741
01:44:31,590 --> 01:44:30,159
right remnants from

2742
01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:31,600
i'm going to say it wrong

2743
01:44:35,510 --> 01:44:33,600
you guys know what i mean i can't

2744
01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:35,520
giganta

2745
01:44:39,669 --> 01:44:37,600
you know you you guys know what i mean

2746
01:44:41,830 --> 01:44:39,679
i'm gonna butcher the

2747
01:44:43,590 --> 01:44:41,840
scientific name i think those theories

2748
01:44:46,790 --> 01:44:43,600
are compelling too and you don't have to

2749
01:44:48,629 --> 01:44:46,800
invoke any ufos or

2750
01:44:51,430 --> 01:44:48,639
mystical you know international

2751
01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:51,440
interdimensional travel there i do think

2752
01:44:54,310 --> 01:44:52,400
uh

2753
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:54,320
bigfoot is kind of like ufos though

2754
01:44:57,990 --> 01:44:55,920
where we use this one term i mean

2755
01:45:00,390 --> 01:44:58,000
there's yeti and sasquatch like there's

2756
01:45:03,830 --> 01:45:00,400
ufos and uap and things like that where

2757
01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:03,840
we do use this one term to explain all

2758
01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:06,239
of this and

2759
01:45:10,870 --> 01:45:08,480
one of the reasons that i

2760
01:45:13,030 --> 01:45:10,880
do feel that extraterrestrials are

2761
01:45:15,189 --> 01:45:13,040
probably visiting is if you just look at

2762
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:15,199
our own planet earth and

2763
01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:18,400
all the diversity of life here and

2764
01:45:21,910 --> 01:45:19,920
and all the

2765
01:45:25,189 --> 01:45:21,920
you know animals and species we still

2766
01:45:29,189 --> 01:45:25,199
discover every year and um and have yet

2767
01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:29,199
to discover it's absolutely mind-blowing

2768
01:45:35,030 --> 01:45:32,800
so i i think there's all kinds of really

2769
01:45:35,830 --> 01:45:35,040
big animals out there

2770
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:35,840
that

2771
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:36,880
do a

2772
01:45:40,870 --> 01:45:38,800
good job at hiding from us i don't think

2773
01:45:43,830 --> 01:45:40,880
you necessarily have to be an advanced

2774
01:45:46,390 --> 01:45:43,840
at species to hide pretty well

2775
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:46,400
from human beings i was talking to

2776
01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:48,560
cliff brackman who people may know from

2777
01:45:51,430 --> 01:45:50,080
finding bigfoot

2778
01:45:53,510 --> 01:45:51,440
pretty

2779
01:45:55,590 --> 01:45:53,520
entertaining show but cliff actually

2780
01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:55,600
takes a more kind of reasonable you know

2781
01:46:00,629 --> 01:45:57,679
scientific viewpoint and

2782
01:46:02,629 --> 01:46:00,639
he has a lot of really cool insight

2783
01:46:04,070 --> 01:46:02,639
around this um you know people are like

2784
01:46:05,910 --> 01:46:04,080
well bigfoot's

2785
01:46:07,990 --> 01:46:05,920
real you know where are the bones well

2786
01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:08,000
this is also common for other animals

2787
01:46:12,229 --> 01:46:09,760
like bears and things like that you

2788
01:46:14,149 --> 01:46:12,239
don't you don't go find you know they

2789
01:46:15,109 --> 01:46:14,159
they go die and

2790
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:15,119
um

2791
01:46:20,550 --> 01:46:18,320
you don't like just find their bones

2792
01:46:21,990 --> 01:46:20,560
out in nature and those are you know a

2793
01:46:23,669 --> 01:46:22,000
creature that we know exists there's

2794
01:46:24,790 --> 01:46:23,679
many different species they're you know

2795
01:46:27,189 --> 01:46:24,800
all over

2796
01:46:29,830 --> 01:46:27,199
so i think i think you can look at it

2797
01:46:31,830 --> 01:46:29,840
through the non-ufo lens but why can't

2798
01:46:33,669 --> 01:46:31,840
there be more than one

2799
01:46:36,070 --> 01:46:33,679
bigfoot

2800
01:46:37,109 --> 01:46:36,080
yeah yeah well janie thank you for the

2801
01:46:39,270 --> 01:46:37,119
call

2802
01:46:41,350 --> 01:46:39,280
joni i'm sorry i think

2803
01:46:43,750 --> 01:46:41,360
yeah

2804
01:46:46,470 --> 01:46:43,760
all right bye now thank you

2805
01:46:47,350 --> 01:46:46,480
um yeah we had a we had a show recently

2806
01:46:49,510 --> 01:46:47,360
um

2807
01:46:52,229 --> 01:46:49,520
where there were people

2808
01:46:54,870 --> 01:46:52,239
were that was making the connection

2809
01:46:56,629 --> 01:46:54,880
between in oregon between ufos and

2810
01:46:58,870 --> 01:46:56,639
bigfoot it was it was kind of

2811
01:47:01,910 --> 01:46:58,880
fascinating um i don't know what to

2812
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:03,189
i mean you've got

2813
01:47:07,109 --> 01:47:05,040
where people have reportedly seen like

2814
01:47:08,950 --> 01:47:07,119
big but like creatures or humanoid like

2815
01:47:11,109 --> 01:47:08,960
creatures and then you also have the orb

2816
01:47:14,149 --> 01:47:11,119
phenomenon going on there

2817
01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:14,159
when when you start to get into

2818
01:47:18,310 --> 01:47:16,080
topics like skinwalker ranch it's where

2819
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:18,320
a lot of this narrative of okay here's

2820
01:47:21,669 --> 01:47:20,480
the triangle yopos and here's the orbs

2821
01:47:23,910 --> 01:47:21,679
and here's the ghost and here's the

2822
01:47:25,030 --> 01:47:23,920
bigfoot excuse me all of that kind of

2823
01:47:27,590 --> 01:47:25,040
falls apart

2824
01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:27,600
at skinwalker ranch and it's almost like

2825
01:47:31,510 --> 01:47:29,440
you can almost disprove all of it or

2826
01:47:32,550 --> 01:47:31,520
prove all of it at skinwalker ranch and

2827
01:47:34,870 --> 01:47:32,560
so

2828
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:34,880
i i do feel like that's an under

2829
01:47:39,430 --> 01:47:37,199
underlying you know thing kind of

2830
01:47:40,950 --> 01:47:39,440
bubbling up to the surface challenging

2831
01:47:42,790 --> 01:47:40,960
all of us and there's there's a lot of

2832
01:47:45,189 --> 01:47:42,800
answers there and i do think there's

2833
01:47:48,070 --> 01:47:45,199
more overlap and why we separate ghosts

2834
01:47:50,390 --> 01:47:48,080
from orbs is weird to me you know why we

2835
01:47:51,350 --> 01:47:50,400
separate spirits from aliens it's weird

2836
01:47:54,390 --> 01:47:51,360
to me

2837
01:47:56,950 --> 01:47:54,400
um these are very overlapping

2838
01:47:58,629 --> 01:47:56,960
okay yeah but the one thing i know

2839
01:48:00,390 --> 01:47:58,639
exactly what you're saying

2840
01:48:01,990 --> 01:48:00,400
and i agree with most of it but the one

2841
01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:02,000
thing about

2842
01:48:08,229 --> 01:48:05,040
that where ufos kind of separate from

2843
01:48:10,629 --> 01:48:08,239
those other weird or unusual paranormal

2844
01:48:12,629 --> 01:48:10,639
type things is that we have data you

2845
01:48:15,270 --> 01:48:12,639
know we have data on

2846
01:48:16,310 --> 01:48:15,280
we have not only

2847
01:48:18,950 --> 01:48:16,320
film

2848
01:48:21,830 --> 01:48:18,960
you know which is there can be argued

2849
01:48:24,790 --> 01:48:21,840
that not so great um you know images or

2850
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:24,800
or film maybe not as much as we do other

2851
01:48:29,030 --> 01:48:26,639
things you know i mean there are a

2852
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:29,040
couple of known ones that are really

2853
01:48:32,790 --> 01:48:30,400
good of course you know when you look at

2854
01:48:36,229 --> 01:48:32,800
this one here that that is pretty

2855
01:48:38,950 --> 01:48:36,239
amazing the film of the baldwin ufo in

2856
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:38,960
australia very clear a guy took in his

2857
01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:39,920
garden

2858
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:40,960
um

2859
01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:43,600
that that's a really interesting one you

2860
01:48:47,910 --> 01:48:45,199
know we have the trent

2861
01:48:49,030 --> 01:48:47,920
ufo these are old pictures of course but

2862
01:48:51,669 --> 01:48:49,040
still

2863
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:51,679
um we have radar data

2864
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:54,080
and you know i mean pictures like this

2865
01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:55,920
in 1951

2866
01:49:00,629 --> 01:48:57,040
you know i mean

2867
01:49:02,229 --> 01:49:00,639
there's much more than you know with

2868
01:49:03,669 --> 01:49:02,239
with bigfoot we have the patterson

2869
01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:03,679
gimlin

2870
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:06,800
film we have ghosts i don't know what we

2871
01:49:11,590 --> 01:49:09,440
have with ghosts um but uh yeah i guess

2872
01:49:13,870 --> 01:49:11,600
it's more it so to me it's a lot of

2873
01:49:16,550 --> 01:49:13,880
language right so you know

2874
01:49:18,950 --> 01:49:16,560
cryptozoology versus like what is the

2875
01:49:20,629 --> 01:49:18,960
difference between interdimensional and

2876
01:49:23,669 --> 01:49:20,639
um communicating with the spirit in the

2877
01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:23,679
afterlife to me these are all impossible

2878
01:49:29,350 --> 01:49:26,080
things right that could all be what's

2879
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:29,360
going on here right so yeah i i i 100

2880
01:49:33,510 --> 01:49:31,360
agree there's total difference between

2881
01:49:35,750 --> 01:49:33,520
having radar evidence and a photo

2882
01:49:38,950 --> 01:49:35,760
of something in the sky

2883
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:38,960
versus um

2884
01:49:44,229 --> 01:49:41,679
maybe even having like a an electronic

2885
01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:44,239
recording of some static interference

2886
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:46,560
right that suggests some kind of

2887
01:49:50,470 --> 01:49:48,560
communication right but it is

2888
01:49:53,589 --> 01:49:50,480
interesting to me when people theorize

2889
01:49:55,189 --> 01:49:53,599
about the origin you know ufos that all

2890
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:55,199
that we're really talking about right

2891
01:49:58,390 --> 01:49:57,440
are aliens or ets and it's like that

2892
01:50:01,030 --> 01:49:58,400
seems

2893
01:50:02,950 --> 01:50:01,040
we're making like a lot of assumptions

2894
01:50:04,950 --> 01:50:02,960
right you know we still have a lot to

2895
01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:04,960
learn about how the conscious brain

2896
01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:07,679
works and have thoughts you know

2897
01:50:11,750 --> 01:50:09,520
maybe can transfer

2898
01:50:13,430 --> 01:50:11,760
you know in the atmosphere more than

2899
01:50:15,430 --> 01:50:13,440
more than we realize right like when it

2900
01:50:17,750 --> 01:50:15,440
comes to the psychic phenomenons that's

2901
01:50:19,109 --> 01:50:17,760
why i brought that up right so because

2902
01:50:21,589 --> 01:50:19,119
when we're talking about cases like the

2903
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:21,599
zimbabwe case where the children

2904
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:22,960
you know claim to have had these

2905
01:50:27,430 --> 01:50:25,119
messages that were downloaded you know

2906
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:27,440
during the encounter right you know it's

2907
01:50:31,270 --> 01:50:29,280
interesting that we're

2908
01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:31,280
only allowed to talk about aliens it's

2909
01:50:37,270 --> 01:50:33,679
like well what about ghosts what about

2910
01:50:39,189 --> 01:50:37,280
spirits what about crypto what about

2911
01:50:40,709 --> 01:50:39,199
so there's uh

2912
01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:40,719
i don't think we really know the right

2913
01:50:42,790 --> 01:50:41,920
questions

2914
01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:42,800
yeah

2915
01:50:52,149 --> 01:50:49,440
keep it all on the top top of mind i

2916
01:50:54,070 --> 01:50:52,159
guess yeah i think you how you just

2917
01:50:55,669 --> 01:50:54,080
framed that was very well said

2918
01:50:57,430 --> 01:50:55,679
about the question we don't know what

2919
01:51:00,310 --> 01:50:57,440
the question to ask

2920
01:51:01,910 --> 01:51:00,320
that's what makes it so fascinating and

2921
01:51:04,229 --> 01:51:01,920
and and

2922
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:04,239
you know we may not even understand the

2923
01:51:07,669 --> 01:51:05,280
answer

2924
01:51:09,669 --> 01:51:07,679
which i think is also fascinating so we

2925
01:51:12,229 --> 01:51:09,679
only have a couple minutes left here and

2926
01:51:14,550 --> 01:51:12,239
i want you to if you would uh tell

2927
01:51:16,709 --> 01:51:14,560
people how they can i think i will i

2928
01:51:19,189 --> 01:51:16,719
believe i have your

2929
01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:19,199
your uh link down in the show notes but

2930
01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:24,070
oh shoot i don't know if that's me or

2931
01:51:30,070 --> 01:51:28,629
i think martin froze for i froze

2932
01:51:36,149 --> 01:51:30,080
somebody froze okay

2933
01:51:40,870 --> 01:51:38,950
yeah so no um we only have well we only

2934
01:51:43,109 --> 01:51:40,880
have two minutes left so how can someone

2935
01:51:44,629 --> 01:51:43,119
find you yeah yeah so you guys were kind

2936
01:51:46,390 --> 01:51:44,639
enough to show like that whole youtube

2937
01:51:48,310 --> 01:51:46,400
video

2938
01:51:50,950 --> 01:51:48,320
during the stream so i appreciate that

2939
01:51:53,109 --> 01:51:50,960
um you know ufo j and on youtube you

2940
01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:53,119
know subscribing there liking that

2941
01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:54,880
content if you're in texas though and

2942
01:51:58,550 --> 01:51:56,159
you're really into those just

2943
01:52:01,350 --> 01:51:58,560
documentary reports texas ufos on

2944
01:52:03,189 --> 01:52:01,360
facebook or textufosightings.com

2945
01:52:05,750 --> 01:52:03,199
and on twitter that's where you'll get

2946
01:52:07,350 --> 01:52:05,760
those just sometimes more boring reports

2947
01:52:09,189 --> 01:52:07,360
but if you're really really trying to

2948
01:52:11,350 --> 01:52:09,199
understand the phenomenon on a regular

2949
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:11,360
basis and then youtube or do the

2950
01:52:16,229 --> 01:52:13,520
interviews and analysis of some of these

2951
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:16,239
other some sightings sometimes um we

2952
01:52:20,950 --> 01:52:18,480
also do weird hollywood where we talking

2953
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:20,960
about the movie predator on thursday

2954
01:52:25,270 --> 01:52:24,000
actually and and actually tying it into

2955
01:52:29,750 --> 01:52:25,280
real

2956
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:29,760
the predator is that

2957
01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:33,119
a feasible alien could could us could we

2958
01:52:37,350 --> 01:52:34,480
be hunted

2959
01:52:40,070 --> 01:52:37,360
by for sport oh my gosh a little darker

2960
01:52:42,149 --> 01:52:40,080
subject for thursday but um

2961
01:52:43,830 --> 01:52:42,159
appreciate all the support and so

2962
01:52:45,910 --> 01:52:43,840
appreciated being invited on the show

2963
01:52:48,070 --> 01:52:45,920
i'm sorry i was late

2964
01:52:50,870 --> 01:52:48,080
no that was my fault so

2965
01:52:52,709 --> 01:52:50,880
so but that was totally my my thing and

2966
01:52:55,910 --> 01:52:52,719
me being on the road and

2967
01:52:57,669 --> 01:52:55,920
uh typing wrong numbers to you

2968
01:52:59,750 --> 01:52:57,679
but anyway i appreciate it very much

2969
01:53:01,510 --> 01:52:59,760
it's always a pleasure to talk to you

2970
01:53:03,189 --> 01:53:01,520
this is a blast thank you martin thank

2971
01:53:05,750 --> 01:53:03,199
you everybody in the chat

2972
01:53:06,550 --> 01:53:05,760
all right take care all right bye guys

2973
01:53:08,629 --> 01:53:06,560
bye

2974
01:53:11,830 --> 01:53:08,639
all right everyone so back next week i

2975
01:53:13,750 --> 01:53:11,840
will not be back but you can see uh this

2976
01:53:16,709 --> 01:53:13,760
show will premiere exactly

2977
01:53:19,189 --> 01:53:16,719
at 6 p.m as always every tuesday

2978
01:53:21,830 --> 01:53:19,199
automatically and will be up as a

2979
01:53:24,149 --> 01:53:21,840
podcast as always um

2980
01:53:26,149 --> 01:53:24,159
later on that night so thank you so much

2981
01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:26,159
and next week by the way just to mention

2982
01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:28,719
it again is kevin randall and albert

2983
01:53:33,589 --> 01:53:29,840
wayne

2984
01:53:35,910 --> 01:53:33,599
and i appreciate um all of my listeners

2985
01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:35,920
and watchers on youtube and

2986
01:53:50,490 --> 01:53:39,250
we'll keep your eyes to the sky